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Recently I've been having feelings about moving away from Fusion 360. The combination of cloud app / filesystem and their demonstrated willingness to remove features and add arbitrary limitations (eg. 10 editable model limit) makes me feel uneasy about using it. To be clear I'm grateful that AutoDesk provide a free license at all, and it's an incredible piece of software, but I have a sense of vulnerability while using and honing my skills in it. If you've ever rented a house you'll know the feeling - you quite don't feel like it's really your home, if the landlord wants to make renovate or redecorate you don't have any choice and you could be evicted at any moment.

So I tried FreeCAD. At first, I have to say that it felt a little like stepping out of a spaceship (Fusion) and banging rocks together like a caveman. It's not that you can't do (most) of the same things as an enterprise CAD package, but the killer feature of Fusion is the level of intuitiveness and "it just works" that makes FreeCAD seem like trying to write Latin.

After a week of on-and-off learning I was not sure I wanted to continue. Even after getting comfortable with the basics, frustration levels would spike to 11 sometimes. The main issue I kept running into was that altering a previous feature would break everything that came after, requiring a varying amount of work to fix. The FreeCAD wiki suggests ways to mitigate this but many of them are un-intuitive and/or inconvenient. After some googling this seems to be caused by a pretty difficult to solve issue called the "Topological Naming Problem" (where FreeCAD can't keep track of surfaces / edges / vertexes in a stable fashion when features are changed). Then I came across this blog post that pointed out a fix has actually been developed earlier this year. A developer by the name of RealThunder has created a fork of FreeCAD called "Link Branch" which can track topology in a (more) stable fashion.

I tried this branch and was blown away by how much more usable it is. Not only can it handle changes to past features almost perfectly, but I can create multiple bodies from a single sketch (not possible before) and there are other UI tweaks that make creating features easier such as the ability to preview fillets and chamfers at the same time as selecting their edges. I'm not totally sure which of these features are unique to Link branch vs which might be pre-release in the main branch, but certainly the topology naming fix is unique to Link.

So if you have tried FreeCAD in the past and been frustrated, or if Fusion's past free license changes or price increases are making you uneasy, give the Link Branch a try! Downloads are available in the releases page.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think they are really comparable.

Personally I see blender more as an animation or organic modeling tool whereas CAD software like fusion is better when you need exact dimensions for your parts

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is nothing you have to see personally like this but it's pretty much the definition. Blender is not CAD. End of story.

[–] thantik 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

CAD-Sketcher blender addon. 'nuff said. Blender CAN be CAD. If you want it to be.

And somehow this addon that has existed for less than a year, is easier and more intuitive to use than FreeCAD has made itself after 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

imho this isn't really up to the task of complex CAD. But it's good enough for very simple things i suppose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

CAD Sketcher improves Blender a bit, but it's still not good enough to turn Blender into a dimensionally accurate CAD, and I found the UI to be fairly clunky and if anything even less intuitive than FreeCAD, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So is there an open source direct modeler? I've been working in Designspark, but while it is not currently as onerous as F360 or OnShape (god forbid I stumble into something that other people decide might be worth a few bucks), it's still a (free for now) subscription and has had feature erosion, specifically importing darn near anything pre-existing. I'm not making anything complex enough that it suffers from the Direct Modeling workflow, and I find that workflow much more intuitive. Shoot, I'd even settle for a fork of Solvespace with chamfers and fillets, LOL.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't used Blender for this purpose (or FreeCAD at all, for that matter...just OpenSCAD for doing models for 3D printing). But it looks like Blender has some sort of add-on support for parametric modeling that's being worked on.

https://www.cadsketcher.com/

A constraint-based sketcher addon created by hlorus for Blender that allows you to create precise 2d shapes by defining CAD geometric constraints like tangents, distances, angles, equal and more. These Sketches are then converted into beziers or mesh which still stay editable through a fully non-destructive workflow i.e, Geometry nodes and modifiers.

It's not, historically, the main purpose of the software, but maybe Blender will ultimately wind up moving into the CAD world too to some degree.