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[–] Thteven 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

The gun nuts have made it perfectly clear they're not willing to budge on any legislation. It's going to get to the point where their opposition totally adopts the polar opposite viewpoint of just taking them all away.

I'm there already, fuck guns. I've lost all sympathy for their arguments about "home safety" and "keeping the government in check" (fuckin LOL at that one). They should be illegal and anyone caught with one automatically sentenced to 10 years. I think harsh penalties and zero tolerance are our only options since the gun lobbies won't even consider anything reasonable. They backed us into this position and this is going to keep happening until we do something meaningful about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Some people live way out in the woods and need to defend themselves from bears, moose and to hunt for food. Bolt action, shotguns and revolvers should be acceptable. This blanket ban all guns rhetoric from people is incredibly nieve and comes from sheltered city people. Guns are a tool and they have their place. Ones designed for killing people do not belong.

[–] Thteven 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What other option do we have? Every piece of reasonable legislation gets hamstringed by the gun lobbyists. There's no recourse besides flushing the whole industry down the shitter.

I grew up in the mountains of Colorado actually, want to guess how many bears I've had to shoot? Get some bear spray, a bow and arrow, a pellet gun, a paintball gun that shoots pepper balls, firecrackers, a starter pistol, a big fuckin pointy stick, loud speakers, a fire extinguisher, fucking anything besides a goddamn school destroying ar-15. I'm tired of kids dieing from this bullshit. Fuck guns.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Totally agree on ar15s, you don't need anything with that capacity for any reason really. I can see an argument for some conservation/wildlife management (ie: boar over population) but really that should fall to government to handle who has access to those kinds of firearms already.

[–] MindSkipperBro12 0 points 9 months ago

No half measures, a blanket ban is just about the only way to solve anything.

Just start with handguns first and move our way up.

[–] MindSkipperBro12 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m someone who likes guns, since the cowboy guns are pretty cool, but I’m willing to surrender them if or when they get banned. A complete total and harsh ban is the only way to truly solve the shooting incidents.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ideally we'd address the root causes of lack of mental health and socioeconomic inequality.

[–] Thteven 4 points 9 months ago

That's about as likely as the government actually going door to door to collect everyone's guns.

[–] MindSkipperBro12 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We can probably do both, vaccine and cure protocol kinda stuff.

“No half measures, Walt.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yep. I own guns and switched from reasonable measures to full repeal of the 2nd. They're only driving reasonable people further to full bans and no one can blame them for that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And then the Supreme Court tells you "no" and that's it.

This country is fucked.

[–] Thteven 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Those motherfuckers need term limits :/

[–] federatingIsTooHard 1 points 9 months ago

we can just ignore them. they don't have any enforcement arm. in fact, congress has been concentrating so much if its own power in the executive we can probably ignore congress, too. what is congress going to do about it? pass a law?