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[–] [email protected] 106 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn’t that evident from the very first few days, when we learned the board stood for the non profit, safety first mother org while the booted ceo stands for reckless monetization?

Now he’s back, the safety concerns got silenced, money can be made, people can get fucked. A good day for capitalists

[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That's why I was so confused that all the workers stood behind the CEO and threatened to go to Microsoft.

[–] ours 62 points 11 months ago

My guess is that they want the company to grow fast so that their salaries and stock options grow as well.

[–] dustyData 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

That's what a personality cult gets you. The amount of idiots willing to die for another man's ego is why we have some of the shittiest things in society. “Daddy told me so” is a powerful force when the people who believe it cannot see that their vision has absolutely no rational support. Jobs, Musk, Gates, Trump, they all thrive by telling people that their irrational beliefs are true and if they follow them they will make their dreams realities. The talk and narrative around Altman has always struck me similar to Musk's cult of personality in the late 2010s.

[–] APassenger 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Stock options help. If they make enough off of OpenAI, they won't need to find a job after this.

[–] dustyData 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is tech, they have no protections. I bet there's some clause with a time lock that they can only sell the stock in 10 years time and they lose them if they leave OpenAI before that time window for any reason. In 5 years or before they'll get hit by some mass layoffs and lose everything. This has happened so many times before with so many companies that it is laughable. Stock options in tech are a fairy tale.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Especially in a company that's a non-profit, lmao.

Sheep gonna sheep.

[–] FrostyTrichs 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The amount of idiots willing to die for another man's ego

U.S. Military has entered the chat

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure Gates ever had a "personality cult". In the 90s during his heyday he was pretty much reviled even by Windows users. He built his empire by swallowing everyone else around him that was doing anything even a little bit innovative. He wasn't really the "visionary artist/engineer" type like those others. Just a random rich nerd who won the technology monopoly game.

[–] raspberriesareyummy 15 points 11 months ago

Like @Zak, I would like to point out that - as much as I despised Bill Gates back then - he was actually competent. And - despite me never liking Microsoft - they have a legitimate business model built on selling products, not user data (like all social media and google). So of all the evil dipshits out there, Microsoft and Apple are the lesser ones. (I am a Linux user since 2004 or so)

[–] Zak 10 points 11 months ago

Early accounts are that Bill Gates was absolutely a talented coder, at least in the 1970s. Of course that was't what made him rich - a series of business decisions that were some combination of lucky and prescient were.

[–] trafalgar225 15 points 11 months ago

The company gave the companies a large amount of equity. That was the work of Sam Altman. The employees are voting their wallet my sticking up for him.

[–] NounsAndWords 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That was some classic business pressure tactics. The sort of thing a massive multinational corporation would have a lot of experience in. The sort of thing a massive multinational corporation suddenly blindsided by this with a lot of financial interest in the situation would be interested in doing....while at the same time mitigating risk by trying to pull those same employees into the parent company if things don't go their way.

Edit: Now that I think about it, they also managed to get the vast majority of employees to 'join together' on the issue making it (psychologically) easier for them to 'join together' in choosing where to jump ship to. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but it's just a really clever move on Microsoft's part.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Using a playbook isn't clever, writing it was.