Found in the comments of a youtube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwI6py78gsI (I didn't watch because I never watch youtube videos, only reading the comments.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Humans became human through learning to cook in general. Not just learning to cook meat. Cooking has a large impact on the digestibility of vegetables, not just meat.

If you wanted to be true to nature you would probably be eating very different meats to the ones you eat now. Things that grow locally like mammoth, buffalo, dogs, marmots, rats, even insects. Not imported animals like cows. You also wouldn't be eating meat as often because hunting isn't that reliable compared to foraging or harvesting crops. Modern agricultural plants don't exist so you have to deal with much smaller and less nutritious wild plants and vegetables.

I should point out I am not a vegan or vegetarian. I simply find it annoying when people use nature arguments while not understanding what the nature actually is.

[–] Kyyrypyy 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems believable. But to my understanding, people did either hunt before, or began hunting during the same perioid. And yeah, for the meat people ate what was available, when it was available. Meat still played a big role, and perhaps in peoples minds (like mine) the part is very exaggarated due to it being a matter of celebration, when the hunt ended successfully. The celebration of meat might also be one of the leading reasons why our food industry has evolved so meat-centric. None the less, good to be reminded/educated myself.

I'd also imagine that hunting tribes were more dominant over those who exclusively foraged. Not because they ate meat, but because they were more prestieged in killing.

And no, I don't want to be "true nature", but I'd rather eat more balanced foods, which was one of the points this thread eventually started.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meat isn't something we started eating when we became humans. I am pretty sure chimpanzees eat animals, though I think it's mainly insects. Our specific strategy for hunting might have something to do with us developing intelligence but that isn't certain by any means.

Anyway lots of countries are not this meat centric as meat is more rare and expensive.

It is somewhat more difficult to have a perfect diet without meat. Then again having a healthy balanced diet is general is difficult no matter how many animal products you use.

I also think you missed the point of being vegan entirely. It's to stop suffering, not because of nature or being healthy.

[–] Kyyrypyy 1 points 1 year ago

No, I know people prefers veganism due to ethical reasons. But the unfortunate fact is that there is always someone somewhere suffering, and in all honest, I'm down to reducing the overproduction of meat, and ensuring humane treatment, but stopping meat production just results all those animals being left to die on their own devices, which in turn, is more cruel I feel, considering most of those animals are at this point dependant on humans.