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'Morale is at an all-time low': Ex-Googler writes scathing latter slamming layoffs and 'eroded' culture::An ex-Googler wrote a 1,500-word letter criticizing the firm and CEO Sundar Pichai's lack of "visionary leadership."

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago (4 children)

LoL no shit. You don't even need to be an employee to figure this out. Even as a customer I feel that way. I'm looking to leave Google altogether.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I went to modify my 2018 Google Wi-Fi router to add a simple port forwarding rule, and the functionality is completely GONE from their already shitty Google Home app. It used to be so easy and simple on the old Wi-Fi app. I’m never buying another Google device.

This company has reached enshittification nirvana.

[–] madcaesar 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google home has become an absolute shit show. It has awful UI and UX. Truly an amazing feat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worse is that they can’t even do things like set timers anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah how tf do you become feature poorer (even with the basics) as your product matures and you spend billions acquiring your competition? Oh yeah…let me click on the original news article on this post for the answer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still there for me in "Advanced networking"->"Port Management".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you click into mine, all you see are two options both of which only serve to allow Google to Hoover more of your data.

Looking into this more a couple days ago, it seemed that without IP reservations, you can’t get the port forwarding option to appear. Which I haven’t messed with. On principal I refuse to deal with a router that has regressed in functionality and am instead dedicating my time to de-Google my life haha. I bought an openwrt compatible router this weekend. https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/900cfd9b-ad9c-4a1c-8a41-5ce580c9b353.pnghttps://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/655586bb-2e04-42a6-97f5-75df79fb1915.png

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do have a bunch of IP reservations. I don't really know how you'd do port forwarding without subs static IP address to forward to. I have not seen any of the data sharing options, but it could be that I gave those permissions years ago and forgot...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

IIRC the Google Wi-Fi app had some extremely simple selection process in the port forwarding that allowed you to review the device list with IPs and select for port forwarding. The app would then carry the pf rule regardless of DHCP. Seems very simple functionality that now requires multiple steps to achieve. I’m sure in the product management meetings they assumed the new Nest users were too dumb to handle such logic or just overlooked the functionality in general to speed the migration from Google Wi-Fi to Google Home. Seems like a great mini case study for poor product management.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, you're right. It does work with dynamic addresses.

It works like this for me, currently:

First step, port management, click plus

Then select the device

And setup the ports

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Gotcha, maybe it’s the fact I’m running iOS, I can’t get any type of rule or DHCP assignment options to show up. Just the same two options for telemetry and Nest. Oh well, thanks for the help. I’m getting my new router Tuesday and should be off to the races!

[–] phoneymouse 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I left Google 5-6 years ago. I do occasionally use YouTube, but that’s about it.

It’s surprisingly easy to get used to once you do it.

[–] nephs 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] BombOmOm 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Protonmail is one of the more popular options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is what I'm planning to do as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is the Spam Filtering equally as good?

That's the reason I went Gmail back in the day.

I get hundreds of emails a day. All filtered out properly.

[–] tinkeringidiot 2 points 1 year ago

It’s been much better for me, haven’t had an unsolicited e-mail hit my inbox yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I get hundreds of emails a day.

Dad? I told you, don't type your email address in every popup and click every email link 🤣

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

When you've been on the Internet for 20 years it is inevitable that your address ends up on an email list, or two. They all share information with each other

[–] SuckMyWang 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I’m not the same person but I jumped ship from Gmail to Outlook (when that big rebrand launched a decade ago) and a few years ago to Fastmail.

It doesn’t hold a candle to ProtonMail’s privacy and security but I found it handy since it’s a complete mail, contacts, calendar solution with syncing via standards and a large number of available aliases. And since I pay, I’m the customer.

[–] phoneymouse 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good options exist now, including proton and skiff. Recommend checking out skiff. Everyone knows proton.

Skiff gives you 10GB free. Proton only gives 500MB.

That said we should be paying for email. If you don’t, you wind up with Gmail, where they read and analyze the contents of your email to build a profile on you and serve you ads. Moment I noped out of Gmail was when I realized they were aggregating sales receipts in my inbox and tracking the products I was buying. Wow, when did I ever agree to that? Guess it was time move on.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've switched to Kagi for search, and Fastmail for email. Though a bit more difficult to escape Google when you've got a pixel 8 pro ;)

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whaaaat, it's supported now? It wasn't for a bit. (Or maybe I'm thinking of Lineage) Man, I may have to make the jump soon, or at least just test it out. It's been a while since I've played with a custom ROM though, since the pixels are a great vanilla experience.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It’s super easy to install graphene. They even have a web installer.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Rather easier I'd say, as it has an unlockable bootloader, unlike most other phones. I have a pixel 7 on Graphene, but there's a bunch of other versions you can try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Only the google edition, not carrier versions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If you have a pixel phone, there are completely de-Googled android operating systems available for them with full hardware support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Actually, it's easiest to escape google with a Pixel, even more than an iPhone with GrapheneOS (only if not a carrier phone though).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've switched to duck duck go and I'm working on leaving Gmail, but damn it's taking a while to update my email address everywhere, hoping after couple of months I won't have any Google products left in my name.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I've been using Gmail and Google Drive since the early 2000's. I have a lot of stuff on there. All my life photos, a whole lot of documents and almost my entire adult life in emails.

It's going to be a very long and complicated process.