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How many licks would it take? Can the iron in bars even be processed by the body? Can you do this for other minerals?

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[–] PetDinosaurs -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You should change your thought process and listen to the experts.

They also would have recommended dietary changes if they actually were applicable. It is this kind of belief that leads to increased harm and is solely the reason why so many children are being harmed and killed by extremely preventable causes.

I'm not accusing you of being someone as heinous as an antivaxxer, but this is the thought process that leads people down that path.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im pretty sure the experts already talked with them back when the kid was having the problems

And for infants, doctors also prefer dietary changes before medicine, for incredibly obvious reasons

[–] PetDinosaurs 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is what I said. The doctor would only have suggested meds if it were necessary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im pretty sure the doctor gave them the thumbs up on trying dietary first, and Im pretty sure the doctor knows better than the guy trying to historically lecture that doctor retroactively.

[–] PetDinosaurs 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The doctor is unable to stop them from their behavior.

Imagine yourself as a doctor. The patient has the plague. You say, "Take this antibiotic. It will go away." They say, "We prefer quarantine and chicken noodle soup".

Do you say ok? Or do you admonish them and risk they get angry and do nothing? Or do you say, that is better than nothing. It is their body.

The only ethical behavior for a physician in this situation is to say, "sure, try dietary modifications".

They were trying to prevent long term brain development issues by resolving the anemia the fastest evidence-based way, but the patient refused expert advice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How about we imagine the scenario that happened?

A doctor suggests a solution, via direct supplements.

The parents ask if they can try dietary first, because they are correctly nervous about direct supplementation for an infant even if it is needed, and want to go for a safer option first if possible.

The doctor sees that the situation could also be solved via dietary supplementation, and is not so severe as to require direct supplements only, and says yes. Lets start with dietary.

The baby gets better, because dietary solved the problem.

Decades later, an internet troll tries to pretend that asking for alternatives and discussing your options with your doctor is akin to anti vax mentality, while drinking heartily from a solid lead mug.

Here, real medicine was practiced, and then someone who doesnt actually know what they are talking about tried to shame a parent for doing the completely normal thing of discussing options with their doctor

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Trust me, I'm nowhere near an antivaxxer, if the pediatrician pushed even slightly harder for medicine as the solution then we'd have gone that way from the start. They were fine with us trying diet adjustments first and doing another visit soon after to see if the issue was resolved (it was).

I understand the concern though.

[–] NJA 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you even have kids? My daughter had low iron and all we had to do was give her less milk

[–] PetDinosaurs 0 points 1 year ago

I do. I also have a PhD from a medical school. That's why I know if eating less milk were the best solution for this individual, they would have said that.

Managing parents' anxieties is a major part of being a pediatrician. You don't suggest things that might scare parents when they are not necessary.