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Can you see a conversation? Does israel deserve to exist? How should they prosecute this fight?
Israel has now existed for nearly a century. Several generations. Therefore, to say something like that today is a gross denial of reality. It doesn't help anyone.
Since the 50's more or less.
You didn't answer my question, tho.
Honestly? No. Israel does not deserve to exist, in the same way that Australia, Canada, the USA and other colonial countries don’t deserve to exist. The land was taken by the British under false pretences and outright lies (read: terra nullius) and the only colonial country I can think of that has a genuine treaty between the invaders and native populations is New Zealand. Even they have significant issues with managing the relationships between Anglo Kiwis and Māori.
Israel is stolen land, as are Australia, Canada, the USA etc. and all are equally illegitimate with regards to their right to exist as a nation.
You're at least internally consistent. Hopefully you're not on stolen land.
I am on stolen land, and I recognise the legitimacy of Aboriginal Australians wanting to pursue a genuine treaty process that can undo some of the serious harm us Anglos have done over the last couple hundred years and instill true self-determination. My ancestors were the ones most involved in the invasion and genocides, and I don’t take that responsibility lightly.
I did, even when the answer is something you don't like to hear.