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[–] LouNeko 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

From the article it sounds like there were two people randomly shooting at a car. It's plausible that the other guy just gave him one if his guns.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Either way and my point still stands. It's fucking insanity.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Well when Americans INSIST that rootin tootin point and shootin is the only way, then yeah - this shit is gonna keep happening. I’m all about better gun laws, but you’d think I’m growing devil horns when I talk about it

[–] LouNeko 1 points 1 year ago

I completely agree.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shouldn't it be a crime to give a loaded gun to someone who is mentally incompetent to stand trial?

[–] yenahmik 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is someone who is not mentally competent enough to stand trial allowed to return to society? He should have been under medical supervision, not wandering the streets.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That costs money. If we spent money on medical needs, who would fund the war machine?

[–] TheJims 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are more guns than people in this country. Even if you banned their sale entirely there will still be plenty to go around.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For a time. But if you made it illegal to transfer a firearm by any means and set up a buy-back program where when gun owners died the government would claim the guns and provide fair compensation to the estate you could get rid of the guns without taking anyone's guns away. It would take decades, of course, but every day there would be few guns out there and, importantly, the young people that commit most gun violence would be the people with the hardest time getting and carrying one. You can't expect we'll solve a problem that took decades to metastasize overnight anyway.

So there are solutions. That's just one. We don't solve this problem not because we can't but because we don't have the will to.

[–] TheJims 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I appreciate your optimism but standing here in red rural America I don’t think it will ever happen. There are an insane amount of guns here with more and more every day.

[–] csprance 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You'd be surprised what people are willing to let go of when they see children in their community being murdered. Doesn't matter what political spectrum you're on. There are major gun safety advocates who used to be 2a Rambo's who lost children and realized how wrong they were. It's just not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

thats the problem with conservatives in the untied states though... their complete lack of empathy means they dont care to change until someone kills their kid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

theres about 50% of us or more who also feel we should start sooner than later in solving for the gun issue... but now with trump banging his cult drum, and one of those drum beats is the '2nd amendment' were kinda fucked.

it would take a constitutional amendment, which we havent done in a long time... and with as useless as the 2 parties are right now, it wont happen.

[–] csprance 5 points 1 year ago

Trump himself once said "take the guns first then figure it out." One of the only cool things he's said.

[–] scrape 2 points 1 year ago

More than %50. Gun ownership is %50 for only white males. It is only about %15 for the rest of the country. Only one demographic has a culture of violence.

[–] surewhynotlem 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Until there aren't.

There were more buildings with asbestos in the US than people. Then we fixed it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but the founding fathers just forgot to include the freedom to put asbestos in walls in the Constitution!

[–] surewhynotlem 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pursuit of happiness, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can we really have happiness without asbestos? 🤔