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I am in an intense love-hate relationship with Spotify. It makes good mixes for me, I have found a lot of great bands that way. BUT IT KEEPS REGURGITATING THE SAME SONGS IN THERE. I know about Song Radios and Artist Radios, so please don't recommend those. Smart Shuttle doesn't cut it, either.

The best thing would be several randomness sliders. One for randomness in bands, the other for randnomness of their songs, one for genres. Please tell me some music service has implemented something like that. I am dying over here.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This wasn't what you asked for, but I have to add it in here: I switched to YouTube music because I was told the shuffle actually was random there. From my experience the past couple of months it seems to be the case, at the very least it's better. But discovering new music (without putting in much effort) has been harder. Their playlist sorting is non-existent (you're stuck with alphabetic order, no folders). And for some idiotic reason the playlists are shared with YouTube... Everything with it, except for its working shuffle, is horrendous.

How the fuck can Spotify just not have a true fucking random shuffle, it's so annoying! It does everything else fairly well, but I'm not switching back to starting a playlist of 8+ hrs and getting a recognizable pattern depending on what I skip and don't. Or whatever goddamn algorithm they think is better than /dev/urandom.

This gave me hope for a while, but I've now given up: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Option-to-have-a-true-shuffle/idi-p/4880594/page/103#comments

[–] theherk 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you want to discover new music, use “Start Radio” in lieu of shuffle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, I'm aware of the radio ability. I'm not using shuffle to discover new music. I'm using it to play random songs from a large playlist I have.

[–] shork 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually looked for that after you mentioned it on the Spotify app but couldn't find it. Mind saying where it is? Or you're referencing the outside shuffle website.

[–] theherk 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry I was unclear. I meant in YouTube Music. It has a Start Radio option which is suitable for discovery.

[–] sir_pronoun 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, maybe I should really Check that and Apple music out.. still frustrating, as no option seems to be great. How can that be, after so many years of music services? What are all those developers doing? Are they stuck in scrum meeting timeloops?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

https://spotifyshuffler.com/ this is what I use. To shuffle liked songs, use the desktop app, go to liked songs, ctrl-a, right click, add to new playlist. Then that playlist can be shuffled with that tool and you play it in spotify with shuffle turned off (since the song order is already random). I've heard a lot of songs I haven't heard in forever so it's super nice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use Virtual Shuffle. It forces Spotify to play truly random tracks. https://shuffle.virock.org