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[–] Aceticon 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, well, Joe already knew Israel was ruled by a Fascist well before he hitched his country to the choices of said Fascist with his "unwavering support" speech and sending another shipment of weaponry and ammo.

It's like entering a bank alongside a guy wearing a ski mask and carrying a submachine gun, loudly declaring "unwavering support" for him and openning up a suitcase with a broad selection of handheld guns and saying "Would you like some more?": you can hardly honestly claim you're not in on the subsequent bank robbery after doing something like that.

[–] FlowVoid -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

The US hasn't sent any military equipment to Israel since the attack on October 7.

Biden requested a package, but Congress hasn't yet approved it. It consists mainly of missile defense systems, not weapons for the current offensive. And it includes an almost equal dollar amount in humanitarian aid.

[–] Aceticon 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So what you're saying is that I should've used "and once the bank robbery was happenning, pulled out two RPGs and offered more guns to the bank robber 'once my buddies approve it'" in my metaphor rather than the whole "openning a suitcase full of guns before the robbery" thing: after all, the US did send 2 aircraft carriers to "support Israel" and will be sending an "aid" package now that the fascists in Israel have already and clearly been acting for several weeks far beyond self-defense and into Genocide territory.

Indeed, all things considered, it's even harder for Joe and his posse to feign surprise at their greatest Fascist buddy going full Fascist than it would've been per my over-optimistic early point.

Good point and well spotted.

[–] FlowVoid 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden's aid package consists of anti-missile defense systems and humanitarian aid to Gazans. I have no problem with either of those, and neither should Gazans.

The aircraft carrier and other naval forces aren't doing anything except trying to keep other countries from entering the conflict and shooting down missiles. Which again I have no problem with.

If you must draw a silly analogy, it's like showing up to the bank robbery and opening a suitcase full of bulletproof vests.

[–] halferect 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We've been giving Israel billions every year for 40 plus years so it's more like we took the bank robber shopping for his mask and guns and then drove him to the bank

[–] dustyData 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're actively trying to bypass Congress right now.

[–] FlowVoid -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Quite the opposite, Biden just threatened to veto an Israeli military aid package.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

~~Solely~~ because it had a "poison-pill" of defunding the IRS

Edit: there were also other issues with it in the reply to this comment

[–] FlowVoid 1 points 10 months ago

Also because it had no humanitarian aid for Gaza and no military aid for Ukraine