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Minnesota representative has voted for majority of Biden’s legislative agenda but says it’s time for next generation of leaders

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[–] Ensign_Crab 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Oh neat. Another centrist trying to give Trump another term. Guess supporting incumbents is only for incumbents like Henry Cuellar and Joe Manchin.

If he succeeds in giving Trump another term, centrists will do what they do every time they lose: blame progressives and shift to the right.

[–] Viking_Hippie 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As if Biden himself isn't a centrist severely increasing the risk of another Trump term.

I'm not saying that I'm in favor of this Phillips rando, mind you, I'm saying that I'm in favor of a candidate with policy positions much more in alignment with the majority of the population than either of them, IE a progressive.

[–] Ensign_Crab 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that centrists are against primarying incumbents only when the primary challenge comes from the incumbent's left.

[–] Viking_Hippie 4 points 1 year ago

That's absolutely true, yeah.

[–] Salamendacious 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Typically I blame people who don't show up to vote. Overall I think Democrats have better solutions to that problems facing America today but people don't want to actually vote. Turn out for the last midterm was about 45%. That's terrible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't show up to vote or disenfranchised to vote?

[–] Salamendacious 4 points 1 year ago

Didn't show up because those numbers changed during the presidential election. If it were disenfranchisement I think they would have remained low.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know that the Democrats have better solutions, for me it's the simple fact that Democrats are proposing solutions at all. What are the proposed Republican solutions for the cost of healthcare, the wage gap, the climate crisis, gun violence?

I don't even fully agree with all the solutions proposed by Democrats, but it seems to me like they're the only game in town.

[–] Salamendacious 1 points 1 year ago

Well a Republican might answer this way:

Healthcare: let the free market determine the price. If you can't afford it then that's an incentive to get a better job.

Wage gap: negotiate for better pay. Or find a better job.

Climate crisis: the earth goes though patterns of hot and cold. Humans have nothing to do with it.

Gun violence: the only thing that'll stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

You know what? I stand corrected. You're absolutely right.

[–] Rakonat 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly don't see how he's any worse than Biden in that front. Most people only voted Biden specifically because he wasn't Trump. A primary challenger could possibly energize dem voters into going to the polls and get some kind of policy talk going, while it remaind to be seen who thr GOP nominee will be, Trumps legal woes coule likely DOA his chances assuming the GOP can produce one healthy brain cell to champion their ticket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But there's a chance you'll elect someone better than Biden. The fact that the US basically has a two-party system is already terrible enough.

But I doubt Biden will not win the Dems primary since he's already sitting as the President.

And even if Dean Philips doesn't win the primary, it gives him exposure in advance of the 2028 elections once whoever finishes their term.

[–] ashok36 1 points 1 year ago

What would someone "better than Biden" have done differently? And would this jackass realistically have done those things?