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For my "convenience" and because in this way they can show ads and clickbait
Also: I SET A FUCKING GROUP POLICY THAT DISABLES THE SEARCH BAR; WHY THEY FUCKING IGNORE IT???
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I play mosty either indy games or just older games on an older gaming laptop (geforce 1070m based HP Omen) and Steam/Linux Mint work pretty great. Outer Wilds works even better in Linux now that I've begun using CoreCtrl to disable CPU power throttling. Otherwise, it runs about like it did on Windows. The MCC runs flawlessly. Recently purchased No Man's Sky and it runs pretty well and is actually incredibly smooth--no idea how that one runs in Windows because I've been just using Linux full-time for maybe two months now.
There is some weirdness like having to process Vulcan Shades before games boot up which can be annoying, but it hasn't discouraged me yet. You can also skip that and the only difference is there might be a bit of stuttering for the first bit of game play. After going back to Windows to compare performance, I think it does this stuttering thing anyways?
Shader compiling is just a graphical technique. DX12 does it too. Just that, Vulkan is nice enough to tell you a bit about it, and Steam has preemptive compiling, which runs most of the compiling before running the game precisely to reduce stuttering during gameplay. If you recall when The Last of Us remake launched, a lot of people were reporting up to an hour of “Loading” time at the menu before the game was playable on first run, and some were even reporting compiling on every single run of the game just as long. That was a bug with DX12 Shader compiling and it was prominent in both consoles and Windows. It's not a Vulkan thing, nor particular about Linux. That is just how graphically intensive games are made nowadays.
+1 for indie games. I really think we're living in the golden age of indie gaming with tools like Godot, Unreal, and Unity (yes, yes, I know, but Unity is probably still the most popular engine for now). As indies get empowered more and more by tools like this, and AAA studios get greedier and greedier, I can't find any reason to play anything that isn't from an indie game developer.
And most, nearly even all indie games work great on Linux, often even better than their Windows counterparts.
I just skip the loading vulkan stage and it works fine for me.
Mmhmm. I've started doing this and it does work fine. I think I saw a comment once that noted they compile faster in-game anyways. So that makes me feel better about skipping lol
Yeah that's kinda what I figured- it just does it in the background!
Vulkan skip gang rise up.
Does it actually work that well? I've been waiting ages for halo shaders every time lmao
Yeah - no different whatsoever - I'm pretty sure it just loads over time in the background once you start the game.
Oh. Thanks lol
What about AAA games like cyberpunk 2077 or Armored Core VI?
https://www.protondb.com/app/1091500 https://www.protondb.com/app/1888160
Both are fine.
Very……interesting……I wonder how RTX drivers work
Thank you for this!
Just make sure to use the Nvidia proprietary driver and you should be fine. Don't try to install it yourself, use the distribution offered version.
What distro would you recommend? Is arch the best right now? (Steam Deck is arch based)
I like Arch as well but there is a higher learning curve than with other distro and if you go for Arch go for EndeavorOS or another Arch derivative (except Manjaro).
However, if you're looking for something to let you game. Nobara is a distro that comes with all the gaming comparability layers and drivers preinstalled. It's based on Fedora so it's relatively up to date but not rolling like Arch.
What would make Nobara better for gaming than Mint? All of my Steam games have worked fine. Do the things you're talking about matter for games that are not in Steam/Proton? Just wondering!
I mean at the end of the day it's all Linux so it's not so different and just a minor convenience.
This is just for Fedora: comes with non-free audio/video codecs, non-free driver repos.
For other distro: It comes with nVidea drivers, WINE, OBS, Blender, Proton, Lutris, and Flatpak set up/preinstalled. (drivers detected on install I believe) there's also package and kernel tweaks to boost gaming performance, supposedly.
In comparison to Mint: Fedora packages and kernel versions get updated a little faster than Ubuntu/Debian based distros.
So Nobara takes a lot of the "pain" out of system setup for people who are new to Linux and gamers/streamers.
I haven't used it personally though I'm currently running EndeavorOS and using a SteamDeck for gaming.
I will check out Nobara! Thanks friend
I am new to Linux and never used it regularly before a couple months ago, but I'd recommend just going with Linux Mint to start off. I don't know much about Arch, but from all the jokes I see on Lemmy, I get the impression it may be a more advanced distro for people who know what they're doing? I wanted to try PopOS! because people said it was good for gaming, but the install wasn't as streamlined for a dual boot Windows/Linux setup.
Linux Mint just kind of works and installed super fast. And my Windows partition is still intact and functional (but I'm wondering if I even need it tbh). My only holdup is Microsoft Office. I still haven't tried to get that working inside of Linux, but if it's possible, then I will certainly delete my Windows install.
But anyways, don't over think it. Just do Linux Mint and then after a while, you'll be able to understand why or if you should consider another distro I would guess!
How is it for gaming though? Nobaru apparently has gamer based fixes and tweaks
I don't have numbers, but I've seen comments/reviews that suggest they're all within a percent or two in terms of frame rate. Like, how much thought should someone put in to getting 101 fps instead of 100 fps, you know? After using Mint for a bit, I'm probably going to stick with this for a year or two before trying out other distros, if I even feel the need. I think there is also value in giving a couple of them a try as you learn more.
Can I easily switch distros or is it like installing windows again where everything is lost?
It's kinda like installing windows, but the process is way faster during the actual install, and the initial setup. The OS is much smaller and took maybe 20 minutes to install after I got my partitions set up properly. After Linux is booted up, every program I needed to get going was easily located in the built in software package downloader. I didn't have to go to NVIDIA's website to download drivers because they were already accessible from the built-in driver manager. Telegram, Steam, and whatever popular software you want is just a quick search away and a button click from being installed as a flatpak application. Firefox was already installed. It didn't ask me to log in to a Microsoft account before I could move on to using my computer.
Wow so there’s open NVIDIA support for Linux Mint? That’s a big plus since I have a 3060
From my understanding, there's definitely driver support all the way around. I have a 1070 in my laptop, so it's old enough that everything is probably about as developed and compatible as it can be. Theres an open source driver available, but most people say to simply stick with the proprietary Nvidia one, which is what I've done. The OS/driver manager should pick out the most stable and best tested release version for your system. I would guess all the distros can use the Nvidia drivers just fine, it's just a matter of getting it installed one way or another, if the distro doesn't have a driver manager. I'm just the newbie, so, I don't have a lot of experience.
I do prefer Arch. I have it on multiple systems. I prefer it because once it's settled and it's working the way you want, it will stay that way for years. Even when you're updating it regularly.
If you don't choose arch, consider bookmarking the arch wiki because it's the best Linux resource out there
Cyberpunk flat out is unplayable with an NVidia card right now, just FYI. They broke something with the 2.0 update.