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You aren't actually serious right?
Cornell has bumbled his micro campaign into irrelevance within weeks of it starting. He's shown no political savvy. He has run for and won no prior office. He'd be a disaster.
Fetterman, or literally any progressive who has won a federal election is a better option.
Dude, if Fetterman ran I'd vote for him in an instant. Doubly so if he took the oath of office in shorts and a hoodie
You shouldn't, He just entered federal Politics. He needs experience and more importantly he needs to be stabilize his Health before he would even dream of going to the next level.
He just won his election against a TV host bullshit artist.
He's playing the game excellently. He'd be a great candidate.
He just needs more experience. He didn’t debate well either. Oz was just such a dumb candidate.
Agree to disagree. I think he'd do fine. He'll debate better than Biden. He's got a record of victory against big names.
Thats plenty. We could have elected a boot in 2020 to oust Trump. We basically elected weekend at bernies Biden. But its fine. Whatever it takes.
And honestly, I'd be shocked if there are even debates. If Trump doesn't' show up for primary debates, he doesn't deserve the privileged and airtime that general debates would offer.
That’s reasonable. I’m not saying I wouldn’t vote for him. I prefer politicians that know how to play the game and will be strategic over giving idealistic speeches that sound great but never go anywhere.
Personally I don’t care about Biden’s age. He’s perfectly fine. If not Harris is there for a reason. We are moving forward. Fetterman has the same mindset actually: https://www.businessinsider.com/john-fetterman-never-understand-progressives-support-joe-biden-2023-9?amp
It's pretty clear to me the way the DNC has been buying airtime for Newsom that Biden won't actually be on the ticket in 2024. They're pulling a bait and switch and we're in the bait phase.
I'm promoting Fetterman because I want a real progressive option instead of a force fed Newsom. And as far as playing the game, it is a game of idealistic speeches and sound bytes. It doesn't matter how Machiavellian you are if you can't win Iowa, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania. Fetterman can deliver those states.
I'm all for staying with Biden for the moment. But the second he starts to waiver, in dropping what I'm doing and joining the Fetterman campaign. Newsom will lose if he runs against Trump.
I don’t see Biden stepping aside, but I also don’t see more people voting for Trump in 2024 than they did in 2020 with all these court cases. Regardless we will have primaries next spring to figure it out.
Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna103907
I hope you are correct on all fronts.
I'm voting for cornel west because I like what he says, not what people say about him. but the people talking shit on him cement my belief he's the right guy.
This some ignorant ass shit, but I'm not worried.
You don't really strike me as the "actually votes" type.
I live in a swing state. you can buy my vote for $20,000
Bruh why I gotta pay you when I already know you wont get off your ass to do shit.
if you don't want it, don't buy it.
Not true at all, still polling at 5% and will get at least that in the general.
Not surprised someone who thinks a walking corpse like Fetterman is a better option would be so ignorant.
Damn man, he didn't say you were stupid, he just said he disagreed with you. Don't need to sling mud for a different opinion.
He did insult someone who has likely accomplished 1000x more with his life, Dr. West. So no, I'm not the one slinging mud here.
Someone saying a public figure with little experience in politics is doing poorly at their third party run is not mudslinging.
This is one of the many reasons that third parties aren't taken seriously. If party members clutch their pearls at critical observations of their candidate, they don't stand a chance in hell.
Besides, Greens are anti science sensationalists. Or have they admitted fault yet on being anti nuclear, anti GMO, ambivalent on vaccines, and entertaining pseudoscience like wifi causing cancer? I don't need Republican lite, grifting populists.
Except he does have political experience and had been involved in many campaigns. You just won't bother to learn or even read his campaign website.
The greens change like any other party depending on leadership. Go read their website and see that you're mistaken on those views. Many have changed over time since I first read them over ten years ago.
This is completely and utterly incorrect:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor#:~:text=With%20increased%20concerns%20about%20nuclear,them%20to%20more%20fission%20products.
We have had a technology since the 60s that can reprocess nuclear waste back into fuel. The screeching and fear mongering of anti science sensationalists has been a roadblock in developing these on large scale. The policy of the Green Party fucking literally leads to more nuclear waste than we would have otherwise.
That alone is enough for me to view the Green Party as a bunch of anti science idiots standing in the way of actual progress. But wait, there's more!
Fucking lmao. What a fucking joke.
These are the issues I brought up, and the platform on them only confirms to me that Greens should be voted against at every opportunity. It's a blessing that they're usually as ineffective as they are impotent.
So hey, thanks for sharing their website and platform. You've convinced me that they're every bit as insane as I thought, and unless they make significant changes, I need to vote against them at every opportunity.
I have good news for you then:
https://www.cornelwest2024.com/
Dr. West announced he is running independent so go check out his website.
Once again, the Green party, like all parties, change with the leadership.
I disagree on those issues and will be supporting the green whenever possible as they are the lesser evil to the Democrats and Republicans.
Bro Dr. Wests students don't even want Dr. West to run.
West is being played the fool right now, and you along for the ride.
Fake as fuck. Ben Dixon is a Democrat grifter you're the one being fooled here.
Aight you just a troll.
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You're the troll posting an hour podcast like anyone gave a fuck.
Bruh 😎 it's literally people who have a direct personal relationship with West and who have been some of his most outspoken supporters showing how much of a damn fool West is for this campaign.
Bro you one dumb buggah. You should just keep your 👄 shut.
Their argument is all that they would steal votes from Dems, which is a lie.
Folks, I give to you the anti reality views of the Green Party in real time!
Wow. First time I've seen anti gay rhetoric on Lemmy
Nonbinary people refer to themselves as Enby (N.B.).
So you're against nonbinary people? Wow. That explains a lot of your conservative positions.
Enby is essentially an equivalent to boys/girls, and some nonbinary people like the term while others do not. I hadn't realized there was mild controversy on it, I was just using it because I wanted to be inclusive and memeing but not formal. Since there isn't a consensus and some people dislike it, I'll go back and edit my comment.
I suspect you don't actually care about any of this since you've unironically used "submissive cuck" as an insult, but it's good information for anyone else who ends up reading this comment chain.
You've got some real thinking to do. Nonbinary people aren't hurting you or anyone. I don't care what people want to call themselves.