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What abundance are you talking about ? That's exactly the problem with capitalism, thinking that resources never end. I'm talking about tightening our belts here, not abundance. And have you seen the wealth some people are hoarding like dragons ? Redistribute some of this, use it towards local sustainable resources and renewable energies.
Even in the ideal world you're imagining, things have to come from somewhere. Food needs to be grown, houses need to be built, energy has to be produced, and a whole lot of different kinds of items need to be manufactured. None of this happens unless there are motivated people doing it, at least not until we automate literally everything. You can't just abolish the entire system this is all built on and expect that to resolve all the underlying issues. Capitalism as it's currently practiced no doubt has its flaws, but of all the economic systems we've tried so far, it seems to be the least bad one. That doesn't mean you can't address the flaws in it, but I'm not sure the nuclear option is the correct way to go here.
I feel like when most people say "end capitalism," they don't actually mean it literally but have a much more nuanced view they just don't express very well. Alternatively, some might even be falling into monothink and just believe that one thing is the cause of all issues, sometimes even losing focus from the actual problem and putting all their effort into just hating the people thought to be at fault.