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I wonder what they see when they watch Star Wars. What do they think the Rebellion is fighting for? Who do they identify with? What parts do they think are cool and for what reasons?
It's a bit like conservative Star Trek fans. I'm not going to gatekeep, but I really wonder what they see in it.
This is what went trough my mind when Elon Musk called star trek the best tv show.
I literally cant come up with a show that is more fundamentally woke.
Yeah I think it’s really easy to brush aside how big of a statement the very existence of Uhura was. This was the 1960s and a black woman is being portrayed in a position of leadership on a space ship and it’s not a thing in the canon. Her gender, race, and country of origin are irrelevant to the star fleet, she’s an expert of communication, and so the enterprise is glad to have her. Then you’ve got Sulu who is canonically an Asian American played by a Japanese American who had been interred during the world war not all that long ago.
In a time of political, racial, and gender unrest this series pointed to a future where those fights for equality and liberation not only were past and won, but so far so that it would be strange for any of the protagonists to imagine the other side. A world where anyone could become a starship captain like Kirk.
Next apartheid Clyde is gonna say he’s been a lifetime fan of the twilight zone…
Nichelle Nichols, who played Lt. Uhura, would have left the show because she didn't see the importance. Martin Luther King convinced her of the importance of her role
How is Uhura not canon? The show defines canon by definition, by what other source do you define it?
Sorry, not a thing as in no big deal, not as in not present
Wow, that's some pretty weird language I'm not familiar with. But OK I'll agree to that. In fact I'm from Denmark, and I never knew it was a thing until the Internet became a thing. It always seemed perfectly natural to me that she was communications officer.
Yeah I’m a millennial so it was never weird to me either, but this was a show that Martin Luther King Jr was watching. It had the first ever interracial kiss on television. Race relations in America in the 1960s were really bad. I didn’t understand the significance until I learned about why they so consciously had a multiracial cast and why they specifically put women in roles of leadership.
I was also wondering that.
Apparently he means it's a presented as a non issue.
He also loves the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. He doesn't realize he's most like Zaphod Beeblebrox or what that says about him.
I wish Douglas Adams was still alive to tell him where to get off.
He also said the movie Parasite was his favorite film. I think he's the kind of person that narrative and metaphor are lost on. Rather a vapid blank slate, that poorly regurgitates the last chalk image left on its edifice.
Either elon hasn't seen star trek at all and doesn't know what he's talking about, thinks its a sci-fi space show or just has a really ficked up twisted mind that twists the show into what he percives it to be
Star trek is meant to show Gene Rodenberry's version of a better humanity that is primarily set in space
Star wars is a space opera that includes exploring timeless issues, well atleast it was until disney took over and didn't get the point to that at all and just replaced it with something else entirely
Sociopaths don't really form their own opinions. They pretend to like whatever will ingratiate them with their target group of people. Elon wants to foster his techie pseudo-engineer image, so he picked a show that skews to that demographic.
That one's easy. It's a show about a bunch of people who are absolutely certain about the superiority of their own ideology, assembled into a military hierarchy that goes completely unquestioned and where everybody's happy to work without pay, traveling around the galaxy in a heavily-armed ship preaching that ideology to everyone they come across, who are nearly always portrayed as more primitive and limited than themselves.
I wonder how many of them saw the episode(s) where it explains why they're happy to work without pay lol
The usual assumption is that the Federation's money-less economy is due to advanced technologies like warp drive and replicators, and that those technologies in the future are the result of capitalism in the present.
But were they wrong?
Guns go pew pew, spaceships go zoom zoom.
"Rebels mean gobermint bad. Liberals are the Empire."
JFC....you're probably right.
They probably think the rebellion is them in their infinite stupidness
I mean, just look at the picture - the one kid is into Star Wars. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd never watched it themselves.
If you think that’s fun, try walking a “Wolverines!” shouting Red Dawn fan through who the “Soviets” are when the US invades Iraq.