this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2023
614 points (93.4% liked)

196

16244 readers
2183 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Things can be tough, let people enjoy the things they enjoy. It brightens there day as long as there healthy.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (12 children)

I know this will sound pretentious as fuck, but as someone who got a physics degree and knows some shit, BBT drives me fucking nuts with its relentless pandering. Nerd culture isn't even nerdy anymore since being a nerd implies being some kind of outcast. When the outcasts become the majority, they're no longer outcast.

Gimme old Star Trek episodes for comfort TV any day.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

As someone who got a physics degree and knows some shit, the first couple seasons are not too bad. The physics/math jokes are mostly fairly accurate, and those shows happened as nerd culture was getting mainstreamed. The first Avengers movie were several years away. I can't really say whether the series had a part in this mainstreaming, but at the least it was in the Zeitgeist.

I grew up in the north Italian province. Being a nerd didn't make you an outcast, but definitely an odd one.

The first couple seasons came out while I was doing my bachelor (i.e. the equivalent of undergrad) and with its caricature of some quirks I could recognize in many of my friends and colleagues, it made me feel at least acknowledged.

Then it got progressively worse as they kept looking for more and more ways to drag it on, lost those qualities I found positive, and I really gave up not too long after that.

Edit: I still need to point out that Star Trek TNG is peak comfort TV, together with maybe The West Wing or some Doctor Who.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Glad someone said it.

Season one or two are actually pretty decent. As the show continued, it doubled down on the minor stereotypical qualities of each character and made that feature their entire personality. It's a pretty normal outcome for any television show, particular across comedy and sitcoms, when the qualities in question are "has autism/aspbergers" and "doesn't know how to treat people like they're human", it quickly becomes a show focused on punching down. Before long, the plot breaks down to the more socially competent characters "fixing" nerds and nerd culture as it continually reinforces the stereotypes that the first couple seasons, sure, poked fun at, but in equal measure challenged the validity of.

At some point the show stopped being a comedy about nerd culture and shifted to actively mocking, not even nerd culture, but the entire culture around academics and intellectualism. It shifted to bullying, validated on your television screen, by showing you time and time again how horrible these socially awkward nerds are, and how difficult they make life for others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

And after all that it is full circle back into no, they didn't challenge the validity, they abused the tropes so s thoroughly that it became known as one of the worst shows in history

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm honestly not sure what season of the show I've seen. I've only seen bits and pieces of an episode or two. Maybe it was a positive thing early on, and I think it could be a better show if it were a little more earnest, but the little exposure I had to it was decidedly negative.

load more comments (9 replies)