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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For the shit they did? Who was alive 2 centuries ago? And taking responsibility for past actions is a huge thing in the Netherlands for at least since the past 5-10 years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

2 centuries? European colonialism continued well into the mid 20th century. There are still people alive who directly participated in them. Besides that, even thought most alive today did not participate directly they still benifit immensly from the colonial past of their countries as anouther comment allready mentioned.

And taking responsibility has been very slow/late and limited, often being limeted to apologies without reperations. The Belgian Crown for example only apologized for its involvement in forced labor and exploitation in the Congo three years ago. Germany only recognized its genocide in Namibia two years ago and refuses to pay reperations.

So yes for the shit they did (or bear a responsibility for if you wanna be more percise).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

2 centuries? European colonialism continued well into the mid 20th century. There are still people alive who directly participated in them. Besides that, even thought most alive today did not participate directly they still benifit immensly from the colonial past of their countries.

And taking responsibility has been very slow/late and limited, often being limeted to apologies without reperations. The Belgian Crown for example only apologized for its involvement in forced labor and exploitation in the Congo three years ago. Germany only recognized its genocide in Namibia two years ago and refuses to pay reperations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The wealth of the colonial countries is entirely due to wealth extracted from the colonies. If they don’t want the responsibility, they should also give away all their wealth.

You can’t have one and not the other.

Either a free consciousness or the stolen wealth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

entirely

Uh huh. Go away and come back when you're done with slogans and want to have an actual conversation based in reality.

Yes, certain countries have taken quite a bit of wealth and discussion can be had about that.

Claiming that these countries got all their wealth "from the colonies" and need to give it all back is just just not true and disingenuous and poisoning the discussion