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[–] SonnyVabitch 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

American lefty, which means you'd be at best centre right in any country with a healthcare system.

[–] thenightisdark 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SonnyVabitch 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't mean you specifically, it's just a general comment on how policies of the European centre right parties are labelled in the American media. The Overton window is shifted to the left in Europe.

[–] thenightisdark 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was surprised to find out that abortion pre Rove versus Wade decision in the United States abortion was much more accessible than it was in the European Union.

Generally shifted to the left the overton window but not always.

For example, abortion.

[–] SonnyVabitch 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair point.

I'm not familiar with RvW, but I'd suspect that in Europe it's largely member state competency, and the more religious societies might have stricter rules. I know Poland is very prohibitive, and so was Ireland until very recently when a highly publicised human tragedy turned people against the rigid rules of the Church.

[–] thenightisdark 0 points 1 year ago

The short version is that USA was more left than all EU members states on abortion -

Sadly that WAS true. However I live in California and it still is true.

Left here in California AKA me is actually left for the European Union too. That's why your original comment struck me as weird it's because for me and my state which is bigger than many European countries in both size and economic might is as left as the European Union.

I do not believe the overton window shift applies to California only the USA