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[–] Burn_The_Right 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

And just like every other red state, they will continue to make insubstantial, tiny changes. Then, with no approved map available at election time, they will revert back to the original illegal map.

This is how it's always done now. Conservatives do not respect court orders or pacifism. The disease of conservatism can only be cured by force.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looks like federal judges are going to appoint a neutral third party to redraw the district's this time, they've learned that trick.

Of course, Alabama is appealing to the supreme court, and we know which way they lean, so.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Mentioned this elsewhere, but SCOTUS is the one who threw out the original map. AL is essentially defying SCOTUS here and so I doubt they’ll be friendly to the cause.

[–] assassin_aragorn 20 points 1 year ago

At the same time, it was the supreme court that actually ruled their maps illegal. I could totally see them saying "oh good you raised the effective black population from 30-40% that's good enough," but it doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility for them to kick Alabama out again.

[–] jeffw 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They ignored SCOTUS the first time, they’ll keep on ignoring the courts this time too

[–] assassin_aragorn 14 points 1 year ago

It's truly a stupid move -- SCOTUS is deeply unpopular and very conservative. If Alabama Republicans refuse to abide by its decision, they set a precedent that anyone can. And Republicans stand to lose a whole lot more if we start ignoring SCOTUS.

[–] Telodzrum 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bang up job reading the article. The panel directed a special master to draw a new map.

[–] Burn_The_Right 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bang up job not paying attention to how conservatives operate. Also, bang up job not recognizing that conservatives do not respond to anything short of physical force. And bang up job giving conservatives the benefit of the doubt that they will obey a court-issued map. Bang up job!

[–] Telodzrum 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] KIM_JONG 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mom and Dad are fighting again.

[–] Burn_The_Right 1 points 1 year ago

Goddamnit Kim, get back to bed right this instant!

[–] assassin_aragorn 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An independent group has been tapped to make the next iteration of maps thankfully.

[–] Burn_The_Right 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And conservatives will ignore that as well.

[–] assassin_aragorn 4 points 1 year ago

They can try, but they'll regret it. I can think of a handful of recent SCOTUS decisions we should ignore if they want to play that game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Use bad map for election, now election is possible fraudulent, in a win they claim tapering by dems, in a loss they say oh we used a bad map need to vote again.