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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Out of the loop, what happened?

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lemmy.world defederated from a instance full of pro-russia shitheel trolls who would ruin any discussions regarding Ukraine. It's very nice not having to scroll through their propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohh I totally forgot about the defederation. Now it all makes sense.
Thanks

[–] MoistWanted 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cryophilia 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MoistWanted 6 points 1 year ago

Yes! Good on them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Meh. I never saw anything like that. Usually russian-sympathizers are downvoted into oblivion and there's not that many of them.

I'm curious exactly what these people were saying, but now I'll never get to see because someone else decided to censor it for me.

Not really defederating, but I hope we can update lemmy so censorship is optional. You can choose to have posts hidden by mods hidden from you, or not. That way everyone wins, except for the children who think "I don't want to see this, so neither should anyone else!" And honestly, who cares about those kids?

[–] orphiebaby 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got kicked from communities in lemmy.ml a year ago when I tried Lemmy for the first time, for not worshipping everything China did.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glad that you actually came to saner instances once they came live, and didn't just feel aversion to the Fediverse as a whole.

[–] orphiebaby 2 points 1 year ago

I mean I did just stop using Lemmy for a year. Then when Reddit did dumb and Lemmy exploded, I forgot that Lemmy was what I had tried.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

hexbear is an instance full of communist trolls

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Being pro Russia because you're pro communist is so fucking weird to me. The Russian federation is an imperialist capitalist oligarchical fascist state.

[–] lemme_at_it 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Being pro Russia because 'own the left' and 'our guy has autocratic dreams' is even weirder

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Let's just agree that no matter your political leanings, being pro-Russia is fucking weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I swear to god it seemed like there was a massive shift in pro Russian sentiment when we all found out Russia had interfered in the 2016 election because

  1. Obama was doing sanctions about it and a certain group of people is always anti Obama, regardless of what that means, politically
  2. Russia had interfered on behalf of the guy they wanted, therefore Russian interference good
[–] Astroturfed 7 points 1 year ago

Logic has no place in that weird mob mentality. They're basically pro fascism, just you know the fascists that aren't Western. Makes it good fascism somehow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they're not communists, they're just fascists that don't like being called fascists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The lengths to which they cry just because people use the word "tankie" is ludicrous. They also have this custom to equate "tankie" and "communist" the same way not too politically literate right wingers do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's all down to the political spectrum bullshit. Far left and far right are complete opposite ends of the spectrum so therefore completely antithetical to one another!

Meanwhile in the real world, fascists and communists (well at least the Leninist/Maoist/Stalinist ones) are all just authoritarians with slightly different rationalizations for it. I kinda feel like the only reason the concept of left/right political spectrum even exists is so some authoritarians in academic circles can claim to be nothing like the Nazis.

[–] Leviathan 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No. They are not.

Half of them are the obnoxious trust fund goons who lived on your floor in the dorms and had posters of Che on their walls. They generally came from wealth and this anti-capitalist rhetoric is just them rebelling against their parents. Their dad is probably a non-practicing jew who drives a VW Phaeton . They don't know their birth mothers too well but their step moms are probably women who graduated from high school two classes ahead of themselves. The obnoxious goons who base their entire personality on these kinds of interactions, they pride themselves on being "disliked for speaking truth to power".

The other half are shitheel trolls who are too wrapped up in their own attempts at edgy bullshit to understand the difference between "it's just a joke, bro" and "just drink the fucking kool-aid, bro".

Neither of those groups have any sense of self awareness.

So nah, they aren't communists.

[–] Cryophilia 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget the paid Russian and Chinese state actors

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope we left most of them on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No platform is free of them. All depends how big it is as to how much attention they give it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Half of them are the obnoxious trust fund goons who lived on your floor in the dorms and had posters of Che on their walls.

That's... so specific. It sounds like you're just saying things, lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Che Guevara, not Che Banana.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Your dad ever bought a Jaffa orange ? well he's buying nukes for Israël. He's a jew