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Jazz probably
Might be indie rock. I'll never forget going to 4chan /mu/ and seeing a guy argue that music should be unpleasant and hard to listen to if you really care about it, because then your opinion on the "sonic experience" isn't being compromised by pleasure, citing the godawful singer of Neutral Milk Hotel as enriching the band more than a good singer would have. Called Death Grips "entry-level" music for tweens before you're ready to graduate to experimental non-melodic field recordings of harsh noise.
I can't say I agree but I think I can understand what that random 4channer was getting at.
Time by Wax Poetic Is one that I listened to on and off for months when it came out. I could never say I liked it but at times I wanted to hear it. It was never a pleasant experience, more like trying to figure out why I kept wanting to hear it.
Never seen people throw hands over if somethibg is jazz or not.
You're going to the wrong jazz clubs then