this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2023
132 points (97.8% liked)

196

16217 readers
2491 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This shit confuses me. Iroh was a war general, aside from that like... what makes him masculine? Ozai is tyranical, but that's not a trait limited to men, so again I don't really get it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

(in the era of ATLA,) Iroh was protective and caring, as well as strong. He invested in the growth of others, and used his power to move the world and people around him in a better direction. He pursued his interests without caring overly much for how others would perceive them. He was absolutely a good example of masculinity IMO.

[–] complacent_jerboa 8 points 1 year ago

I think the author is using them as examples of masculinity — toxic and non-toxic — simply because they're men.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Iroh is a man therefore he's masculine. What would Iroh have to do for you to consider him masculine?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Iroh isn't a man. He's the man

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Pass wisdom and virtues of humility and patience. Pass down your experience and ability so that the next generation (not just your own children) can build a better world for themselves. Stand as a bastion of emotional calm, while showing that you understand how to deal with your grief and anger in healthy ways. And use the consequences of your past abuses of these virtues to warn the next generation to not do the same.

This is exactly who Iroh was.