That's more or less what I was attempting to highlight. It doesn't paint the whole picture, but something as big as life expectancy shouldn't just be dismissed so flippantly in discussions like this.

For transparency, I'm not nearly informed enough to have a valid opinion on the greater topic of this thread. I'm still learning about socialism in all of it's varieties

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Oh I'm so glad with same page. There's definitely a lot to learn with life expectation, especially when seeing a supposedly developed nation dip, that's unprecedented. But don't worry, this is the kind of stuff one never stops learning. I have a degree in political science, I still feel like I have no idea what I'm talking about, but we can try right