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[–] Shardikprime 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Got raised in an openly leftist country, with socialist ideals permeating the culture everywhere and a pretty strong hard on on communism. No need to say that ideas never worked in real life.

I Experienced how it slowly drive the country from better to worse without any external output and meeting these public officials face to face always pointed to them using the position of power and claims of popular sovereignty slogans to pocket their own bags.

Nevertheless my family worked hard to raise us, a task becoming increasingly difficult by each and every socialist policy put in place.

Price controls? Everything became scarce. Of course the higher ups always had food to eat while we spent 3 weeks eating loafs of bread. The last week we didn't eat at all.

Currency controls? Great, now whatever was remaining from price controls now was 100 times more expensive. Not for the socialist party members tho. They had access to the privilege of the American devil's money

Defundind the police? Great, now the little safety there was while going out on the streets went kaput and crime soared even more. Oh but not too the government members, no. They had private security.

Food sovereignty projects designed to feed the population? Hijacked by the same leftists claiming to love the people to pocket their bags even more, with tons of food going to waste directly and never reaching people in need. Of course, you had to be a member of the socialist party to receive the little that did arrive, mind you. Nevermind it only lasted for a week, your human dignity was well worth the price, as the socialists had effectively lowered it.

Medical centers built all over the country? Sure, that couldn't backfire could it? No if you count the exploitation of others brought to our country, and which salary got Pocketed by the higher ups, not only from our socialist government, but also from the party members outside the country of a not so far island. Nevermind also the usage of these centers as propaganda machines, only half built at times and being re inaugurated over and over for years in a wasteful showcase of public funding.

And much more

After experiencing that, I promptly proceeded to tell my history and my country story with socialism, leftists and communism in general, only to be harassed constantly by wannabe champagne socialists on the internet. Mind you, English is not my first language so my interactions are less than ideal, with much of my wording getting confusing to anyone not inclined to understanding and more so, empathy.

After all that, is it a wonder I despise leftists, socialists, communists and authoritarians to my core?

I'd say it's not.

[–] Madbrad200 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think of social democracy (e.g nordic model)? Capitalist at its core but with influences from socialism that results in a strong social net, free healthcare, public housing, and the like.

[–] Shardikprime 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know about that but I do understand they are very capitalists at their core , which I appreciate a lot as having the opportunity to make yourself and others better is all I ask, without the need of well intentioned people to virtue signal their high moral ground over me or others.

That possible future of mine and my family's possible future was taken away from me by those kinds of people. And I don't like it a single bit.

[–] Tenniswaffles 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's more of a corruption issue isn't it? If your country was the opposite leaning politically, the same corrupt politicians would still do their best increase their wealth and power at the expense of anyone else. It's not something unique to the left or the right, or any political stance. Power corrupts, and as you gain more power, thus increasing the chance for corruption, the easier it is to gain more power. Ad infinitum.

[–] Shardikprime 1 points 1 year ago

all things being equal, all countries have corruption. Then The only variable here was the ideological leaning as corruption already is in every country because no one is perfect.

But what can I say, we can't redo our life and be reborn in a different country to experience it directly. We only got the one chance.

Sadly that was my experience. Anyone is free to disregard it or learn from it

[–] Tangent5280 1 points 1 year ago

Hi, could you tell me what country you're from? I've read through twice but I still can't guess. ONLY if you're comfortable with linking this account to that country though.