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[–] Stovetop 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just a bit worried about any potential schism among the Democrats because the electoral system in the US is still incredibly broken and will always gravitate towards a 2-party state.

To me, it seems easier for the Democrats to rebrand as more left-leaning than they currently are and try to remain a united front, rather than splinter into several competing parties.

If anything is to supplant the Democratic party, it would need to be one party supplanting the whole of the Democrats, or else Republicans will remain a plurality and retain control of the US government until the electoral process changes or their numbers diminish.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, I suppose one way to look at it is that we needed the unified front against Trump, but didn't get it. So for now, and especially for the midterms, maybe now's the time to get an alternative party started?

And then they can choose to run a presidential candidate in 2028 or not, depending on the momentum they get?

I dunno. Mostly thinking out loud here.

[–] baronvonj 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After how 40 years of operation, the Green Party still isn't on the ballot in 10 states. Less than 1% of the legislative offices around the country (state and federal) are held by 3rd party or independents. You need to either make ranked choice voting the state-wide method in your state first, or put that energy into taking over your state's Democratic party via the primaries and the internal leadership elections.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The green party doesn't realistically try though

[–] baronvonj 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ballotpedia makes it even more bleak than I thought: "Three minor parties were recognized in more than 10 states as of January 2025"

https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

I thought the Libertarians were on the ballot in all 50 states. Just crazy when you consider Perot had just shy of 20% of the popular vote in 1992 (and still received zero electoral votes).

3rd party for anything beyond county level just isn't happening without ranked choice.

[–] kreskin 1 points 10 hours ago

We just need to get big enough with defectors that the parties come to us willing to deal because they know they cant win without us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

So long as they don't sit on their hands doing nothing and then decide to run one candidate in 2028. You don't lead by taking the top seat, you lead by building a base that wants you to lead.