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[–] [email protected] 170 points 1 year ago (31 children)

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

My thoughts exactly. You should not be choosing TLDs that are volatile to upsets like this. Stick with the tried and true .com or .net, or one of the new TLDs that are not bound to a nation (unless you can comply with the stipulations) or particular type of organization.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or if you absolutely have to, choose the TLD of a country you live in.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That works, too. I'm on lemmy.ca. Buying a .ca domain requires confirmation of citizenship or other qualification before you can even use it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Back in the day, like early 90's when they were managed by the university, they also hand reviewed each request. I had a customer with a registered company name something like "Wood Supplies Canada Inc." and they wanted "woodsuppliescanada.ca". They rejected it because "...canada.ca" was superfluous ...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly it's an honor system thing. You need to declare your a citizen or PR or something

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t even need to be a citizen or PR, you just need to have “a Canadian presence”, which can be as simple as owning a trademark registered in Canada

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. I went with lemmy.ca since I'm Canadian and the instance is in my country.

I also heard Lemmy should perform a little quicker for me too this way.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, practically speaking the domain name should have no effect on access time. DNS has so many layers of caching that as long as SOMEONE has accessed the website nearby (including you), the domain lookup will be local and therefore fast.

Anyway, DNS lookup times, even slow ones, are still not going to be noticable to the end use originally.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I meant the instance itself. The server. The one who runs lemmy.ca is here in Canada with me.

It's like when playing a game; You choose servers closet to you for the lowest ping time.

The other reason I neglected to mention was I like to support local. 😎

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes a difference for a game, but it's not really significant for a website.

The server load and resources will have a much bigger impact on performances than geographic proximity.

[–] FlexibleToast 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And you spread that server load by selecting different servers. While what you're saying is technically true, in a practical sense if everyone picked a more local server that would be one way to achieve what you're saying.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even gTLDs aren't entirely safe. .dev is iffy right now because only Google can give those out and Google domains is going away.

[–] aeharding 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google domains is going away

What the hell, how am I just hearing about this now?

[–] ikidd 14 points 1 year ago

They didn't even tell domain holders.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I wasn't thrilled when I heard the news. I have one maybe two domains with Google and I'm going to be shipped off to somw third party for my renewal. I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure the domain business is being sold to one of those "build your website with us in half an hour" companies and I just cannot wait for the go-daddy like service...which I left go-daddy because of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think they are selling to square space and I think their website builder is pretty damn good actually, but not sure if I'd want to buy a domain from them unless it's for a site hosted on squares space. I mean, they don't exactly specialice on selling domains, but then again not really did google eather so we'll see how the service will be I quess.

[–] Wispy2891 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

.dev was stupid from the beginning due to how many local domains like that...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Alright https://lemmy.zip it is!

Edit: No way someone already did it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Hello there stranger. As completely factually appointed ambassador of lemmy.zip, I'd like to extend a warm welcome to all and am glad to see you've discovered our existence.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

damn that theme is nice

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Zip is the dumbest TLD of all. It is a phishers dream come true. invoice.zip explains it.

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[–] azuth 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

.com and .net are under US jurisdiction they are not stateless. I could also see why the original lemmy developers would not want to use such a domain.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dang I hope lemm.ee is safe. Hopefully Estonia doesn’t decide the same.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, I'm an Estonian citizen at least 😅

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't even consider .ee to be a country domain. I thought you used it for the catchy name.

That's pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

afaik all the two-character TLDs are for countries

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You are correct, all two-character TLDs are country-code.

Source: https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This is terrible news to me, as an OCaml’eer.

There goes all my potential cool project domains … 😭

[–] ikidd 8 points 1 year ago

Well, and it's not like this should take anyone by surprise, it's been 10 years coming. Unless Mali was telling people not to worry and then did an about face? I haven't seen anything to indicate that.

[–] deadhead 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For anyone that wants to learn more about internet domains, the MKBHD Waveform podcast has an awesome episode about this topic. It’s a super interesting listen where they talk about how the internet works and one of the organizations behind it (ICANN).

ICANN and the 7 Keys to the Internet

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

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