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I am always confused why they don't just sabotage the efforts? Like it would be so easy and they definitely aren't paying attention...
One aspect is that working in that kind of system destroys your mental health. Having to play games to hide the good things, trying to mitigate the bad things. It’s pressure.
My state has been basically been doing Project 2025 for the past five years. I had a friend in an important position in a fascist overtaken state organization who held on for a long time, fighting the good fight - but it drains. She fought her fucking hardest, but a human being can only fight for so long.
The kurds have been fighting a war from the desert for decades, but Americans get whipped by paperwork and call it a day
I feel like there will be a "How To Count To 10 In American" video coming out in the next 4-8 years.
Different people are able to take on different levels of risk.
Just because these people resigned doesn’t mean that some other people aren’t staying in for the purposes of being subversive, and you shouldn’t ever hear about the latter.
That's the thing, though. They're not really taking risks.
Much of what DOGE does is completely illegal and does not go through the proper channels and processes. By simply doing their jobs and forcing everything through the proper processes, they can slow down everything, maybe even to a halt, while being completely in the right and thus can't be fired.
Yes, it takes a mental toll, but these guys have a responsibility.
They're unemployed government workers, there are less government jobs now than ever, and their resume literally says DOGE on it. They are taking a risk.
No. They resigned from a job. They were not fired. And as long as they don't break any rules, it's hard to fire them.
I never said they were fired, but since you brought it up, when you're fired, you'll usually get a severance to help during the job search, they won't, they're just unemployed.
... because they resigned. Seriously, what's your point?
If they wouldn't have resigned, they would still have a job. And since they couldn't have been fired easily, they would have continued to have a job for quite a while.
That's not a complex concept, what's so hard to understand about that?
Sabatoge can carry extremely harsh legal penalties, particularly if it has any type of lasting impact. Beyond that, just phoning it in and doing a bad job can slow things down but doesn't actually stop it. If you're then let go it's on their pace, it looks worse for you and it's less noticeable.
A mass resignation can be the only thing some people can do. It sends a message, it gets noticed outside the organization, and it lets objective news reporting share your motivation, which would normally fall under opinion.
It also leaves a big gap in the organization that isn't getting anything done.
Not if you make an Italian strike. You are following every single step of the process, taking the time needed, all by the book. And when the higher rank says something then everyone working resigns all at once.
but.. he who saves his country can not break the law. right??!
Guys, dumping tea in the harbor is illegal, just pay your taxes to the crown. It's just a king, everyone has one
The American revolutionary war was difficult enough with an entire ocean separating us from a king. Now the self appointed king is here.
Lol getting fired doesn't look bad. It doesn't look like anything because you aren't legally required to tell a future employer if you were fired, and they can't ask the previous employer
It's public information if a government employee is terminated, and there's nothing stopping them from reaching out to the previous employer.
State laws determine exactly what a potential employer can ask, and divulge
And do you think that that prevents them from disclosing that they terminated an employee for unprofessional conduct or unsatisfactory job performance?
Further, for government employees certain details about their jobs are simply considered matters of public record. It's not something they divulge, it was simply never private in the first place.
Mostly the risk of jail, probably.
Or execution.
Or stochastic terrorism
Because they don't disagree with it, they only can't bring themselves to be the ones with the blood on their hands. Otherwise they don't care what happens.
I know everything is bad now, but not everyone is bad all the time.