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Sure, it can seem on the surface like wanting to support people of a particular race is in itself a kind of racism, or at least a situation that emphasizes unfair distinctions.
Unfortunately, race does still matter in America, even if we personally disagree with it or want to ignore it. The health and economic research data make it very clear that people of color in America, especially black people, experience harder lives in almost every category. This is due to both recurring experiences of present-day prejudice and discrimination, as well the inter-generational impacts of wealth inequality and psychological trauma.
You might already know about this, but redlining is one example of the way that patterns of discrimination can creates a systemic effect, which, in turn, can impact the physical and financial effects on a family across time. These kinds of systemic effects can then make it harder for current generations of these families to recover and live safe lives today though, we personally might celebrate that the policy doesn't exist anymore, and even though we personally might say that we don't support people acting like that anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining
No one really has to do anything, but some people might choose to support groups of people or organizations who they think might have experienced similar kinds of hardships in their families, and might be glad to have a way to try to do something different with their money than give it to another multinational corporation every time.
Right but as far as I understand it the supermarkets and wholesalers screw all farmers over equally race isn't a consideration.
Yeah I've heard these arguments. I still hold my opinion. America needs to move away from the race obsession.
Completely fair - do you have a counterargument? I'd be interested in hearing the other side.
Constantly talking about race makes race a topical issue.
If racism still exists race still needs to be talked about....
Right. Its going so well for you guys so far, remind me again which breed of nazis are in power, and whicj programs they are focusing on destroying?
So you are going to act like everyone in America is the exact same. With the same views? Did you miss the election where roughly half of the country didn't want this or are you just lashing out because your stance was questioned.
Roughly half? How many didnt take part? Also, gicen its a shithole country, the election results do not relate to how many people wanted whatever. Lol democracy.
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Not OP, but keep seeing the world as if it is “us vs them” or “black vs white” or “right vs left” or “rich vs poor” will not help find common ground and compromises. There is no compromise for racism, but people putting more attention on it will only promote looking at the situation in a way where the difference matters.
Well b is definitely false, so I'm hoping they meant a
Oh no the US is a shitshow of systemic racism, like super ridiculous on every level. There is such a wild undercurrent, surface levek and then an even weirder like super liminal racism where it just has to be mentioned.
Watch like any late night and they will make a self depricating white person joke, middle aged white guy thing. Just stfu about all of it, address the systemic issues with actual actions and then just you know...live as neighbours as americans.
So the US is a shitshow of systemic racism but you want everyone to stop talking about race? Sounds like a way to never fix the problem.
Yeah I want everyone to stop thinking that making jokes about white people's potato salad being lacking in flavour and thinking it is 1. Funny and 2. Making any fucking difference other than highlighting differences. Black people can swim and have small dicks, white people can dance. The pop culture racism is boring and part of the problem.
Why are you talking about white people jokes when I'm talking about systemic oppression.
We were talking about systemic racism. A thing that ruins lives, not bad jokes.
You get how you can't solve racism without discussing race right?
Well for one, america has never shut up about racism and to go with that...things have not got better. It is literally legal to have slaves as long as you incarcerate them first.
Its like these people protesting at the moment, everyone is posting a catching sign. Why the fuck is everyone not just stopping work, just not participating? Because you cant monetise or grow your image that way. Americans want to be seen to care about race, to protest to blah blah blah. But when push comes to shove, ye vote for greed or complacency.