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[–] chiliedogg 72 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm white and hang out with mostly white people who don't understand how scary this is.

I ask them if they can prove to me - right now - that they're a citizen. Lots of them legitimately think a Driver's License is enough.

I explain that it is not proof of citizenship and that lots of people have licenses without being a citizen. So if they were brown, they might be arrested based on their lack of papers.

And once arrested and sent to a camp, your ability to produce any documentation you may have diminishes to almost nothing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Demand your white friends show them their green card or birth certificate.

If you think that's a joke, ask around. I've been asked that twice in my life. But because I'm not Default American™, I have to prove a lot harder that I was born here.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 day ago

And if they do, tell them, "no, the long form birth certificate," since that was demanded of Obama (and it still wasn't enough).

[–] dejected_warp_core 3 points 1 day ago

Yup. Everyone is quick to forget how the US treated Irish, Italian, and Jewish people in past generations. There really is such a thing as "not white enough", and when these jerks run out of people to pick on, that's next.

[–] Maggoty 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also, a bad agent can just get rid of your passport. So carry a photocopy, and let the lawyer your family gets show up with the real one in court.

[–] Jumpingspiderman 5 points 1 day ago

I have a pdf copy of my passport that I have loaded on my iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Get a passport card. It's valid ID, proves you're a citizen, and doesn't have your address on it so cops and the fascists from ICE don't learn where you live. Keep the original passport somewhere secure, like you said

[–] NikkiDimes 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but that doesn't effect them, so why should they care?

/s, obviously.