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[–] Buffalox 68 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

If practically nothing is done to prevent school shootings, why would anyone imagine Trump would prevent ICE from storming schools, detain everyone in it, and sort out which aren't white enough to stay?

Americans need to realize they are living in a fascist country now. That's what the most people voted for.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

No, no, no, don't you understand? This is the Democrats' fault for not running someone ~~old, white, and male~~ likeable enough.

[–] Soup 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

Let’s be clear, while this is all definitely Trump’s fault it wasn’t not being an old, white male that did her in. She was aggressively centre-right and when people want change, when we can all see that the whole world needs change, running on “slightly less garbage and slowly moving in the right direction eventually maybe” is not very energizing.

That whole country is a massive dumpster fire that had to choose between a spray bottle or a can of gasoline to put it out.

Edit: I should clarify that the population should have still voted against Trump(note the wording there) and that it’s shameful that so many of them voted for him. What I’m responding to is the fact that people didn’t avoid Kamala because she was a woman or of a darker complexion and I don’t think we can blame old racists for this one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is the take that frustrates me the most. "Since the candidate wasn't perfect (by my definition of perfect, which of course is exactly the same as everyone else's definition) it's their fault that I stayed home".

The election is always about damage control. You pick the least worst candidate, since those are the only options available. You want something different, you have to have your shit together before the primaries start. Instead, people do nothing for four years, then act all shocked and offended when nothing changes at election time.

[–] Soup 7 points 19 hours ago

I hate it, too, that wasn’t my intention with the response and I added an edit.

But yes, it fucking sucks that the country constantly has such awful choices.

[–] NocturnalMorning 4 points 20 hours ago

This is an idiotic take. She isn't left leaning enough, so let's burn the fucking place to the ground. Yeah, makes sense.

[–] dragontamer 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What. You seriously expect someone to pretend they are the change candidate vs Trump?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, I expected someone to be an actual change candidate after they finally convinced Biden to drop out.

Instead they just replaced Biden with a lady-Biden.

[–] dragontamer -5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Bwahahahaha.

So you expect two change candidates, one from the Republicans and one from the Democrats and you expect the mysterious Democrat to have run a better change campaign than Trump?

Trump is 100% about change and destroying norms. No one can out-change Trump. That's a losing battle politically.

[–] Soup 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think “change” is the only important thing there? People want good change, and many know what that looks like. They didn’t have to compete against Trump’s marketting of the same concept, they just needed to finally grow a spine and do the things people have been pleading for for years.

[–] dragontamer 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

It's a two party system and the Democrats were somewhat in charge (Senate and Presidency).

Admitting to being the change strategy is the same as saying Democrats have failed.

The incumbent cannot run on change. The incumbent runs on status quo. You can run on change for 2026 and 2028.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Yea, they should have said the dems have failed. They would have won in a landslide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They did fail, obviously, in large part because they took too long to ditch the incumbent and didn't do enough to distance their new candidate from him.

[–] dragontamer 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Name a time in all of US History where the party in charge ditched the incumbent and still won the election.

Go on. History is on my side on this matter. The election was lost the moment y'all ditched Biden and gave up on your best chance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

https://abcnews.go.com/538/democrats-incumbent-parties-lost-elections-world/story?id=115972068

"History" would seem to suggest that we're in for another go around the cycle of fascist ascendancy and collapse, and that the Democrats might have had a chance if they ran a primary instead of letting Biden hog the candidacy 'til it was too late to switch.

[–] ChicoSuave 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Folks understand "police state" and "secret investigations" better than fascist country. Fascism means secret police like Stasi and KGB.

Why you should never talk to the police

Know your rights. Stay quiet. Stay safe.

[–] gAlienLifeform 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, and never forget the "fund the police!" Democratic party members who put us in this situation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Biden draws bipartisan applause for calls to ‘fund the police’

“We should all agree: The answer is not to defund the police. It’s to fund the police,” Biden said to strong applause, with cameras showing McCarthy and House Minority Whip Steve Scalise clapping and giving him a standing ovation. “Fund them. Fund them. Fund them with resources and training.”

President Joe Biden on Tuesday drew bipartisan applause — including from House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy — for his calls to fund the police in his State of the Union address.

Biden has long rejected the concept of defunding the police, a push from some progressive Democrats that Republicans have used frequently to attack the opposing party.

Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.), one of the most vocal supporters of the push in Congress to defund the police, slammed Biden on Twitter for not mentioning “saving Black lives” in his address and repeated her calls to defund the police. In his speech Tuesday, Biden didn’t mention racial issues or a push for equity — which has been a common refrain in his administration.

Last month, Pelosi specifically referred to Bush in saying that defunding the police wasn’t the party line.

Democrats saw black americans being beaten and killed by police, starting the Black Lives Matter movement, and went "MORE COPS! MORE AMMO! MORE MONEY TO THE POLICE!"

When Trump sends goons to my door, their weapons used to escort me to a camp will be paid for by this congress.