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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (4 children)

China pollutes way more than the US though and are far less transparent about it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

It also has about 4x the population, and doesn't pollute 4x more.

Plus it's still the largest manufacturing hub in the world. Europe would pollute a lot more if we hadn't exported a lot of (some might say too much) of our industry to the developing world and China over the last 50 years.

[–] surewhynotlem 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They're also modernizing faster than us. They'll be green first.

[–] SupraMario 8 points 5 days ago

They literally just built like 9 coal plants last year...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not holding China up as some panacea, it's very far from perfect (e.g. authoritarian security state, denial of Taiwanese independence, etc.), but i do think it does less net harm than the US. I would also suggest that the things we criticise China for are things which we would overlook in a country which was perceived as less of a threat to western dominance.

In any case, i was trying to say not that i want the US to be like China, but rather that i think the only way to prevent the US from killing us all is through a radical change of attitude, most likely caused by the loss of a major conflict.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The down votes are coming from inside the ~~house~~ country!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Haha, yes, i think so. Although it can't be easy when it feels like the rest of the world (well, lemmy) is piling on to talk shit about your country

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No they don't, what are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I lived there for many years. Trust me, they do.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What does you living there have to do with it? They objectively don't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Everyday I was there I had to wear a mask and I developed asthma. Believe whatever you want.