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I feel like Joker is one of those movies that needed to be on its own. It doesn't feel like a Batman universe movie. It feels like a movie about some kind of mental illness that they slapped Batman related stuff on.
Yeah, but that's why I like Joker
But then as a stand alone movie on mental illness it is so mediocre. I feel that it's only palatable if you're into popcorn movies and have no reference of good psychological drama.
I related to this movie/character on a personal level. I haven't been able to fully explain why, maybe that's the gist of it : it expresses struggles that I haven't been able to put into words, yet I saw on film so eerily resembling mine
This is also one of the reasons I liked it. I knew exactly why it spoke to me, though. I was always very submissive in my life, unable to stand for myself. I was trying to change my approach when the mkvie came out. The scenes where he defends himself resonated with me deeply.
Yeah that's the fun of movies and art in general. I find it empty because it did not speak to me on a personal level but of course that's probably cause i'm missing the whole entire point of it.
For me as a fan of both popcorn movies and psychological drama movies it was awsome. I never thought I'd get a crossover of such distant genres, that seemed wild, and therefore I enjoyed it very much.