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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Valmond to c/asklemmy
 

Hello everyone and happy holidays!

I'm interested in photovoltaic panels, it's the future and all!

But with the subsidiaries and the general enshittification of search engines, all search results about photovoltaics leads to sites with wildly misleading information, IMO.

I don't care about a 3kWc system with installation. What even is a kWc (I know what it is) and why is nobody explaining how much power the panels would typically yield instead? Per month? During the day?

I guess it is less selling if your installation is generating near nothing in December when you need it the most?

Okay sorry, rant off. My question is, where can I find reliable information about how much panels generate every month, during the day?

I know places have more or less sun, but that's quite easy to figure out if you have the numbers for any place.

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Edit: I don't need a web calculator for how many panels I need. I'd like to know roughly how many watt a typical panel produces a specific day (or better hour) in the year.

Edit2: I am not looking for how to install or calculate a typical solar panel setup. I'm looking for the typical real world output of solar panels around the day and year.

Edit3: got my information, thanks [email protected] ! You all can now continue explaining how many panels a home needs or what a kwh is, Merry Christmas to you all!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (25 children)

There are web calculators where you put in your latitude, angle of the panels and total kWp of your installation. It then spits out a kWh prediction for the year. Might still be shitty to find a good one tho. I can tell you that the system i installed at my parents house with 10 kWp has produced 8.4MWh of AC output this year. I live in southern Germany which is around 48ยฐ latitude and it was pretty gray and rainy this summer so could be much better.

This is daily total generation in kWh split up by how much went into the battery vs directly into live usage in the house vs exported to the grid.

This shows the sources of all the electricity that the house used over the year on any given day. Red being imported electricity.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This. There is too much local variation in sunlight angle and weather to give a straight answer. An easy method is to take the rated output and multiply by 0.2, but even that is merely a rough average over a year.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But there should be data on weather and climate variations. So theoretically you could include that data into the calculation. Theoretically. Who's gonna do it?

[โ€“] MightEnlightenYou 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There is. I do it, it's my job as a solar engineer.

Basically, there are several leading softwares that solar engineers use to account for just about anything that happens in the real world.

I mainly use PVsol premium where I 3d model each site and the panel placements and electrical components and so on, then run a minute scale simulation based on the exact location weather data (using Metronorm 8.3)...

Almost no one outside my field understands what goes into my job. It doesn't help that there's a lot of untrained people pretending to do what I do...

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I was having a smoke break with some colleagues once and was talking about how it should be possible to simulate solar panels in 3D, to account for occlusions by roofs, other buildings, trees etc. Didn't know there was a dedicated software and job for that, that's so cool!

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