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[–] dhork 70 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I continued to be amazed that they ran Al Franken out of town over much, much less than this.

[–] givesomefucks 55 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Al Franken was a threat because he was popular and progressive.

So the Dem party lied to him, they told him that they couldn't afford the circus of a hearing (that they could have just not had) so they told him to resign, then they'd do the investigation and clear his name so he could run again.

As soon as he resigned, the same Dems told him that there was no point in a hearing.

He got kneecapped by his own party and people still try to act like it wasn't a big deal.

The neoliberals running the party aren't on our side, they were bought off long ago.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think it was also a timing and a party composition issue. Dems were scared because women and feminists are a big part of their coalition, and the Franken story happened at the height of MeToo so they were more worried about backlash.

Republicans have a consistently popular leader who is widely known to be a sexual predator so it’s apparent that there’s little danger from their base regarding this. The only reason Gaetz got any scrutiny at all for this is because he’s a shithead who is personally disliked by many of his party in congress.

[–] WhiteOakBayou 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think your last point is oft overlooked. No one liked Gaetz because he was reportedly really douchey. Showing naked pictures of women to people who did not ask to see them is one example. There was also that time he over threw the top GOP congressional fundraiser because he allowed an investigation against him. When that guy from North Carolina (south Carolina maybe? I don't remember his name but he used a wheel chair) talked about drug use and sex parties it was widely understood at the time to be about Gaetz. Then that guy had a bunch of oppo dumped against him so he's probably working for a church or some shit now.

Tldr. Matt Gaetz is such an entitled shithead that other very entitled people didn't like him.

[–] Lasherz12 7 points 2 weeks ago

Madison Cawthorn

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree completely, except I don't think 'bought off' is the best way to characterize the rich consistently acting in their own interests. Democratic party leadership doesn't need a bribe or inducement to attack working people and the left, it's the job they signed up for.

[–] givesomefucks 3 points 2 weeks ago

I agree completely, except I don’t think ‘bought off’ is the best way to characterize the rich consistently acting in their own interests

A lot of politicians aren't "rich" when first elected especially for the House the only way to get rich is shady shit like campaign corruption or insider trading.

The party leadership are defending themselves because like we were just shown, they won't let anyone into the VIP area if they're not dirty.

They know Connolly won't do the job, because he's corrupt too.

You can't fight corruption from the bottom up, that's what Biden just tried to do with 1/6, they never got close to anyone who caused it.

For corruption you got to work top down. That's what AOC would have done, and that would have been going after Pelosi because every Republican would vote with AOC to do that.

[–] cAUzapNEAGLb 15 points 2 weeks ago

I'm still mad at that, it was totally unnecessary and a weak virtue signal at best