Unpopular Opinion
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It's too unpopular for the majority here to resist down voting as they should if they respected the rule. As a French trying to provide a different point or view sometimes, I agree. Not only it's a vast majority of USA, but also a specific political quarter of it.
Despite what some say here, even motivated minority posters can't compensate for the crushing statistic, and the total mass is too small to have lively niche communities like on Reddit.
I don't see any solution for now, apart some really major new fuck ups by Reddit that would trigger a bigger exodus.
I also feel like non-English communities just do their things on their own (feddit.org or jlai.lu are good examples), which increases even further the proportion of US users on the generic English-speaking communities.
I think it's good to have them doing their own things, but it is just not big enough to be as entertaining and wide-covering as Reddit. j'ai.lu feels more like a forum with 50 active members that you would check once a week.
@Camus @oce
I didn't completely understand the last part. What do you mean by that ?
https://jlai.lu/post/13223574/11469914
@oce
Thank
In truth i don't see why it increased the proportion of US user. In fact Reddit wasn't popular outside US. And US if i recall correctly is one of the biggest internet country.
And when the migration started due to spez's decision to milk Reddit and its users's data, most of users stayed in Reddit and smaller commuties have a hard time to attract those Redditors since our activity is low.
Futhermore i follow most of jlai.lu active user through iceshrimp, my tab called "Lemmy" is in english.
So the final result isn't surprising. 😅
I'm not following the proportion point, but about non-US on reddit, r/france has 2.1 M readers and r/de has 2.7 M readers. They are very active, it completely dwarves anything on Lemmy. Any national subject is going to be discussed there. I am not using those by activism, but I can't blame the average person to prefer those vastly more active places.
Look at the daily posts on [email protected]. They have several hundreds of comments every day, because the mods of /r/Melbourne supported the migration to Lemmy.
[email protected] is kind of similar in that space, they had an official post to move to feddit a year ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/ich_iel/comments/14d65o7/%C3%B6ffentliche_dienstmeldung_%C3%A4nderung_der/
Meanwhile the mods of /r/France just removed every post mentioning Jlai.lu as it was "a social network".
Shaking my head.
@oce
I'm not sure if they really have 2.1M readers on Reddit. I don't trust those numbers due to bots, inative accounts...
And if Lemmy was really connected to the fediverse we wouldn't have 1K users but lot more.
Even if we can't trust those numbers, you can just check their frontages and see the number of posts and comments per day, it's much more active.
How could it be more connected?
@oce
Well mastodon/iceshrimp's users can't see you. I can only see you there because i met you in jlai.lu first and added your account to my iceshrimp one. So right now, they can only see your jlai.lu account through me.
Outside my iceshrimp account or lemmyverse, you doesn't exist in the fediverse.
ActivityPub, as i read should work that way : whatever the software is, we should access any content and interact with.
So, Lemmy is somewhat limited. Small support of hashtag, and we can't follow people, nor react to their post. If ActivityPub worked well, those number as 1M would be irevalent as we should count the whole french fediverse community.
Same for Mastodon that doesn't support forum style format.
I hope my explanation was clear. It's still a wip project and i hope those barriers will be lowered and see software merging in some way. :)
I guess there are issues with the post formats, micro blog and forum styles are quite different, and there's probably a cultural friction between people who like community based pseudonymous forums and strongly personified social media.
Let's hope we can one day have a common share place for information with UIs adapted to every tastes.
@oce
That's what i hope they will achieve one day. Both are good. And if they don't see the forum structure they won't notice. :)