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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This has been bugging me of late so I'll ask here even though FTR I hate that I agree with Trump:

Why don't we just split the difference and offset by 30 min for the whole year/permanently?

[–] TootSweet 9 points 4 days ago

God no. The math with timezones is painful enough without having to deal with half hour offsets.

Actually, there are some timezones with offsets of half or even quarter hours, but the company where I work in software engineering doesn't do any business in those timezones, so I've never had to deal with that particular brand of madness.

Just get rid of DST. It was never a good idea. "Noon" should mean that the sun is directly overhead (or at least directly overhead east-west-wise if not north-south-wise) and "midnight" should be the midpoint between any two adjacent noons. (Ok, yes, if you live on the extreme eastern or western edge of a timezone, then at noon, the position of the sun may be up to 7.5° off of directly overhead east-west-wise. But yeah.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just adopt GMT and make time meaningless.

[–] peopleproblems 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nah, not GMT. UTC. It's the more accurate successor, and all computers already use it.

Not to mention, everyone will always know what time you are talking about anywhere in the world, and based on your own experience, you know if it will be during the day or not.

Timezones will no longer matter, making software handling time so much easier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I support this idea however it will never happen.People are going to want 9 am to be when the sun comes up.

Switching to a different 24 hour clock won’t help. People are use to 10 being when the sun is up and 23 when the night is happening.

Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.

[–] Sludgeyy 1 points 3 days ago

Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.

Have you really thought this through?

It's 12 pm in New York.

It's 9 am in California.

Sun rised at 7 am in NY today

Sun rised at 7 am in CA today

It was 10 am in NY when sun rose in CA

So let's say we get on one clock.

That means sun rises in California at 4 am

So now everyone in California has to shift their whole schedule around that.

7 am sunrise, 9am-5pm work (Sun set begins at 4.5pm)

Would become 4 am sunrise, 6am-2pm work (Sun set begins at 1:30pm)

How is that the best thing ever?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

They’re effectively the same thing

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I understand what you mean, BUT I live in AZ and Im not going to have AZ be both 30 minutes ahead of Cali, 30 minutes behind Utah, and an hour and 30 behind New Mexico. No, you all either fall in line with how time is supposed to work or you can keep doing your shitty Daylight Savings bullshit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I take it AZ doesn't follow DST? I don't see how springing ahead 30min instead of the hour next time and being done would cause that much of an issue

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb 3 points 4 days ago

Im going to guess youre not from the US? Heres a Time Zone map with the States listed.

I got my own groupings of time zones a little twisted in my head, I didnt think New Mexico was Mountain Time. Regardless, Arizona and Hawaii dont follow DST. Shifting all the US states by 30 minutes for an arbitrary reason doesnt solve anything really and kind of just fucks with global time standards.

[–] Sludgeyy 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Because compromise makes neither side truly happy

We are already trying to compromise with switch back and forth.

30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I personally don't even care which one, I just want either of them and make it permanent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay, I'll choose, keep the sun up later. Make the day last till at least 7 PM in the winter. That way I can still see it after work. I don't give a shit when I'm driving to work.

[–] Sludgeyy 1 points 3 days ago

This would work great in some places, others might finish lunch as the sun rises.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side

What would be complicated?

[–] PhatalFlaw 9 points 4 days ago

Uhhh...the rest of the world being 30 minutes + however many hours different?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Converting times to other timezones would be extra annoying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's already too anoying to deal with.
Splitting the difference would be slightly easier, since it stops changing at arbitrary days of the year.

[–] FlowVoid 2 points 4 days ago

It would still change at arbitrary days, because other countries will still use it.