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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.

“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.

After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”

“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.

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[–] agent_nycto 64 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why would someone this meticulous keep the gun that's could have been ditched? Write out a memefesto like two hours before being caught? Wear the same clothes that could've also been directed or burned? This feels like a patsy.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Because, as many of us pointed out, he was never some super meticulous hitman. He exhibited basic knowledge of firearms and got his stalker on like the ceo what got got was a pretty girl who asked to borrow a pencil that one time in biology class. The rest was taking a bus and wearing a face mask most of the time. It was inevitable that he would be caught unless he fled the country.

Mostly this just highlighted how incompetent cops are. And... might be used to further efforts to just use computer vision and rudimentary "AI" to process security camera footage in the future.

As for why he would keep his gun on him? The manifesto kind of says it all (and, to my knowledge, Luigi has not disputed THAT aspect of it). He wanted to get caught. Probably after making it clear he could have escaped if he wanted to (because getting on a flight out of the US would have been trivial).


To be clear. If he were to have disputed the gun and manifesto I would VERY rapidly be on the side of "cops are planting shit yet again'. But the fact that he hasn't (to my knowledge) while disputing other potentially planted or misinterpreted evidence puts the kibosh on that.

[–] peopleproblems 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he wanted to get caught, why would he say the evidence was planted?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He did not say "the" evidence was planted. He said "that" evidence was planted. As in a subset.

And, as I pointed out above, said evidence makes sense. The "faraday bag" is just an intentional misinterpretation. As for the foreign currency? People very much underestimate how much loose cash cops have due to civil forfeiture and it is a really easy way to argue that someone is a flight risk and should not be granted bail.

[–] agent_nycto 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he wanted to be caught he could've turned himself in though, make it big and public if he wanted that attention.

[–] twistypencil 8 points 1 week ago

Fall guy, planted by the mob to give the NYPD credit that they aren't just a bunch of guys with big bellies keystone copping around, probably they have a deal with a mob boss to not bust their child exploitation ring if they have them some dude who can sit in prison

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Everyone keeps calling him meticulous and I'm just curious what you found meticulous about it.

[–] agent_nycto 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

His getaway sure was and dropping a bag off that had monopoly money seems more well thought out than "have gun and no change clothes"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I still wonder if that was actual monopoly money or if they were just talking about Canadian dollars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I suppose if you think running across the street, riding an e-bike for awhile, and then ditching it in a park is meticulous then we just don't share a definition of meticulous.

[–] agent_nycto 1 points 5 days ago

The getaway might not have been as meticulous as the plan leading up to the getaway.

[–] meco03211 8 points 1 week ago

The way he fired off those shots was practiced.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Maybe had more targets that he plans to "depose"? Maybe