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No, of course we don't microwave the mug WITH the teabag in it. We microwave the teabag separately.

https://explainxkcd.com/3022/

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[–] RupeThereItIs 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ok, but, why is microwaved water any different the water warmed in a kettle?

This seems like a pointless thing to get worked up over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Water warmed in a kettle has much more even temperature in all points, which affects the brewing process. Generally, the more even the temperature is, the more consistent and rich is your brew.

I would consider microwave boiling as a makeshift method to produce a mediocre result when you need it anyway, not as a daily driver.

[–] redhorsejacket 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm asking this from a place of genuine ignorance: how does the evenness of the heat distribution matter when microwaving a pure liquid? I'm familiar with the microwave's uneven heating qualities. I'm sure we've all bit into food that is scalding hot on the surface and still lukewarm at best in its interior. However, I've always presumed that is a product of microwaving a heterogenous, predominantly solid substance.

So, sure, the microwave applies heat unevenly to the water. But wouldn't the tiny little bits of water which get "over" heated simply diffuse their excess thermal energy into the rest of the homogenous volume in very short order? Furthermore,wouldn't an uneven heat distribution in a mug of water simply lead to convection currents flowing from hot to cold, therefore promoting a relatively even distribution?

[–] SkunkWorkz 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

How does a kettle warm the water more evenly but a microwave doesn’t? When a kettle has it’s heating element only at the bottom but a microwave blasts the entire mass of water with energy because it sits on a rotating plate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Exactly because of that.

Hot water moves upwards, and if you heat it from the bottom, you get a more even result than if you blast it from all sides.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Cold water falls to the bottom of a kettle and boils on the bottom. Microwaves can miss the bottom, possibly?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

Microwaves can miss the bottom, possibly?

Boiling water mixes itself, also: no

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

Went to see Randall doing his book promo and being interviewed by Matt Parker (in the UK) recently and this was his exact position on it

The audience were not on his side 😆

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In my experience you won't actually boil water in the microwave because it takes an eternity so you end up with tea in "warm" water instead. Or apparently some people also put the tea bag in the microwave ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Brother it takes 3 minutes to boil water in the microwave. I have done this without fail.

It cools down much faster though. Not sure how that works.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 1 points 18 hours ago

Because only some of the water boils, not all of it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It doesn't cool down faster. That makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Listen I can't prove it, but I swear on my mother it does

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

You can prove it by boiling the water in different ways, putting a thermometer inside and then filming/timing it :D

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It may appear that way if it was unevenly heated, causing pockets of boiling water surrounded by comparatively cool water. This would make it look like it's boiling, but then, when mixed, it is then much cooler than if heated by a kettle that relies on convection to mix the water.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My microwave must be really weak then. The kettle is still faster though

[–] maxwellfire 1 points 21 hours ago

It definitely depends on the microwave. In my office, one boils a mug in 2:20, while the other requires over 3 min