Huh, and here all the men I know have never even the slightest bit upset about broad generalizing statements about men because they are secure in the knowledge that the statement doesn't apply to them... Sounds like a skill issue tbh.

[–] gmtom 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So what is your point?

What is your smug, dismissive attitude achieving?

I know this statement doesn't apply to me, but it still hurts me. Just the same as any generalisation.

I'm sure you'll say something about privilege, and I somewhat agree, but someone having privilege does not make it okay to completely dismiss them and group them in with shitty people for things out of their control.

And again, rhetoric like this is one of the reason that young men are moving away from progressives into the hands of the alt-right. If you want things to get better and want men to be better, the first step is to not be an asshole to them for no reason.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh no I get grouped in with shitty people all the time. I'm AMAB and I look very much like a man. I am acutely aware of how I'm seen. I see every single woman that sees me and instinctively recoils in anticipation of me being exactly that kind of man. It sends my dysphoria through the roof to be seen and perceived that way every single second of every single day. I deal with that pain all the time.

But do you know what I don't do? I don't turn that around on women who are validly pointing out saying they hate when men do something messed up or creepy to women and tell them that they need to be more considerate of MY feelings on the matter. I don't tell them that they need to stop being an asshole to me if they want me to care about their issues.

[–] gmtom 1 points 1 week ago

Personally I think there's a big difference between being perceived as a man and being directly told "no it's not "shitty people", it's men"

You can't really do much about people's perception, but you can absolutely change whether you're directly a dick to someone because of how they were born.

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