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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by grue to c/3dprinting
 

I'm in the process of replacing all my single-color christmas lights with addressable RGB LEDs, but the 12mm "bullet" form factor of them is different from the traditional incandescent mini lights, the 5mm wide angle LEDs, etc.:

You'd think they'd make C6/7/9 bulb covers that attach to them, but I have yet to find any for sale, anywhere. As such, I want to 3D print some, along with 12mm bullet pixel-sized replacements for my snowflake lights:

What's some good filament I can get that will be reasonably clear and stay that way (without yellowing or getting too brittle) for several years' worth of Christmas seasons, despite UV/rain/cold exposure?

(Bonus question: anybody know a good way to model the facets in those "strawberry" lights? The C7 bulbs on Thingiverse, such as this one, are all smooth, LOL.)


Edit: by the way, to be clear (pun intended): I don't need optical clarity like the lens guy; scattering the light is fine. (In fact, doing that on purpose is kind of the point of modeling a faceted C7 bulb instead of a smooth one.) I just want to make sure that whatever part of the filament that doesn't manage to be transparent is white, not tinted some dingy color.

I do happen to have some Inland "natural" PLA laying around and did a test print in that. It's not too bad -- only a little bit yellow at the wall thickness I'm using -- but I fear for how it will hold up over time.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Honestly? This seems like a really bad use case for FDM (less familiar with resin). Clear filament is very deceptive and actually getting reasonably translucent prints out of them can be a hassle. CNC Kitchen did a video on this a few years back. Far from perfect but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qb25Gi4Jv0. Of particular note is the cooling and support related hassle which is of particular interest if you are printing light bulbs.

I get you don't care if it is clear. But clear filament gets REAL cloudy REAL fast and that is a factor with lighting.

Also? You already keyed in that UV and exposure are hell. Also understand that even LED bulbs can get pretty hot. Not hot enough to melt the plastic (probably) but likely enough to cause further clouding and so forth.

People very much underestimate just what a torture test xmas lighting is and why so many are designed to be more or less consumable objects. You can stretch that out if you properly maintain them in the off months but you are still expecting them to run for 8-12 hours a night for a month (or more) straight during some REALLY harsh weather.


I would also make sure the prints are actually water tight. Because properly wired lights are fine if a diode shorts out. How much do you trust your wiring for something that lives on the exterior of your home in the rain and snow? Hell, I barely even trust commercial xmas lights for that purpose.

[–] grue 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Honestly? This seems like a really bad use case for FDM (less familiar with resin).

I mean, you're probably not wrong, but what's the alternative? It's not as if I'm going to injection-mold them or machine them out of a solid block of plastic.

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[sigh] Damn it, now you've got me researching DIY injection molding and rotomolding (once I finish writing this). Thanks a lot! 😠

Clear filament is very deceptive and actually getting reasonably translucent prints out of them can be a hassle. CNC Kitchen did a video on this a few years back. Far from perfect but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qb25Gi4Jv0. Of particular note is the cooling and support related hassle which is of particular interest if you are printing light bulbs.

Thanks for that video link; it was informative.

Regarding transparency/translucency: before even posting this thread, I had already done a quick-and-dirty test print of a C7 bulb cover with some Inland "natural" PLA I had lying around and "normal" settings -- not even really dialed in for my new printer at all, let alone customized for maximum transparency -- and it was fine (except for being slightly yellow). It's only a 2 perimeter thick shell, after all.

Heck, I might drop that down to one and use spiral vase mode, if I can figure out how to print the lugs that lock into the groove on the pixel in that mode, instead of a solid bottom layer.

People very much underestimate just what a torture test xmas lighting is and why so many are designed to be more or less consumable objects... I would also make sure the prints are actually water tight. Because properly wired lights are fine if a diode shorts out. How much do you trust your wiring for something that lives on the exterior of your home in the rain and snow? Hell, I barely even trust commercial xmas lights for that purpose.

Regarding lighting durability/water-tightness: the way these bullet pixels work is that the hole in the casing where the wires come in is completely filled with potting compound (at least 1/4" from the outside to anything conductive). Also, I'm doing all my wire splicing with marine grade solder seal heat shrink connectors. I'm pretty sure I could run the lights submerged and they'd be fine.

The things I'm printing are just decorative covers to diffuse the light into more interesting shapes. They have nothing to do with protecting the strand itself, and the worst that could happen if water gets in them is that they might get moldy or something.