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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I've heard electric kettles are slower here because of the limits of our electrical system. I do have a kettle for the stove, though. I also rarely drink tea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Standard outlets in the USA are 120v at 15A (1800W max peak, 1440W max continuous). In comparison, standard UK outlets are 230v at 13A (2990W peak)

This also affects other things. For example, standard electric heaters (resistive heat) can't get as hot in the USA.

Edit: Also, dryers in countries like UK and Australia don't need a special type of outlet.

[–] Ross_audio 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Due to a quirk of unifying 2 standards, Europe and the UK, the range is 216.2 volts to 253.0 volts.

That encompasses infrastructure built to a tighter tolerance around 220V in Europe and infrastructure built to a tighter tolerance around 240V in the UK (and Australia).

We expect 3150W out of a kettle most of the time. Our heaters will say 3kW.

Usually you'll find a few volts over 240 out of our outlets and that's to design spec.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thanks for the info! I've never actually lived in the UK so I was just guessing based on what I've read online.

I was going to use Australia as an example (since I was born there) but standard outlets in Australia are only 10A so they're not quite as powerful as the UK ones :). There's 15A outlets but they're not very common.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

my electric kettle takes maybe 20 seconds to get to boiling water here in the USA

[–] nixcamic 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My friends just put a euro style 220 outlet on their counter and ordered a kettle online. Since they were building the house new it was basically no different than buying a 110v kettle.

[–] daggermoon 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You can install a European outlet in a US home? How is it compatible?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

American wiring is center-tapped ~240V; typical 120V outlets are from line on either side of the tap to the neutral, while dryers, stoves, etc. are 240V line to line. So they would have wired it like a stove, but then put in a euro style plug instead of a stove plug

[–] nixcamic 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You just run 220 from the panel to it. Almost every US house has 220 outlets for the dryer and stove anyhow. All you're doing is using a different shaped plug, and like, wires are wires, they fit into a euro plug the same as they fit into a NEMA plug.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Technically it wouldn't be to us code. It would be way smarter to just install a NEMA outlet and use an adapter, or even better just replace the plug on the kettle.

[–] nixcamic 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't actually live in the US, just somewhere that happens to use 110 and NEMA outlets.

Also I think the theory with the euro plug was that when the kettle died they could just buy another and not have to modify anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's true, because you use a 110V based system you have less power available to the kettle. It's still a lot faster than an electric stove though. Not faster than an induction stove, probably.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We have a 2 phase, 120v or 240v. Standard wall outlets only have 1 phase at 120v and a 15amp limit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Split phase; two phase is something else that's not really used because it's a massive pain in the ass compared to single or three phase

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Residential service is a single split 240v phase off of a 480V 3-phase line, while something like an apartment is 2 phase 208Y, with a single phase is 120V.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

2 phase 208Y

3 phase 208. But I imagine you know that, and just fat fingered the wrong key

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, I guess I meant that you're getting 2 of the 3 phases, which is 208V phase-to-phase, or 120V phase to neutral.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ah, that makes sense