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Smart enough to get very rich. Dumb enough to die for no reason

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Mmmm, I seem to recall that Jobs had pancreatic cancer, which is pretty bad. I don't remember what stage it was, but I also know that pancreatic cancer is generally not discovered until it's quite advanced.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 107 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Apple founder Steve Jobs' faith in alternative medicine likely cost him his life, says Barrie Cassileth, chief of integrative medicine at New York's Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center.

Jobs was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in 2003. But Jobs, revered as one of the brightest minds on the planet, chose to delay surgery, the only treatment that had a chance to save his life, Cassileth says.

For nine months after his diagnosis, Offit writes, Jobs treated his cancer with acupuncture, herbs, bowel cleansings and a special diet of carrots and fruit juices.

Jobs eventually had surgery, and even a liver transplant. But it was too late.

He died in 2011, eight years after diagnosis.

"He had the only kind of pancreatic cancer that is treatable and curable," Cassileth says. "He essentially committed suicide."

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/18/book-raises-alarms-about-alternative-medicine/2429385/

[–] Tyfud 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Worse, he took a good liver from someone who needed it, when he was absolutely terminal, without qualifying like we all have to for the organ transplant list, because money.

So he very likely killed someone who could have had that liver save them, on his way out.

A true billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you for looking up what I was too lazy to.

What a fucking idiot.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Probably jumped the transplant list with $$$ at the end too. Likely costing someone else their life too.

[–] Blue_Morpho 32 points 2 weeks ago

Yes he did. It was covered in the news at the time.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

On brand for him

[–] iAvicenna 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Eh imagine your loved one dying because some fuckwad billionaire, who dismissed modern medicine in favour of carrot juices, fucked him self up and then paid tons of money to get a liver which would only extend his life by a year.

[–] vala 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"one of the brightest minds on the planet".

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Haha yes. "revered as" (* by people who are not the brightest on the planet)

[–] vala 1 points 2 weeks ago

This bothers me so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah, "pancreatic cancer" and "highly treatable" rarely go together. Obviously he was quite private with his health so we'll never know for sure, but I do recall him needing a liver transplant so it's safe to assume it had metastaticised quickly and was pretty advanced. But regardless, he was an abusive asshole billionaire, so obligatory "fuck Steve Jobs."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He apparently had, like, the only variety of pancreatic cancer that actually is treatable. Dude got about as "lucky" as it is possible for a cancer diagnosis to be and still pissed it all away on woo woo bullshit.

[–] kopasz7 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In a weird way, I have to give it to him, he really did what he preached in thinking different.

[–] MutilationWave 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As I commented elsewhere, people say he smelled awful from not bathing but had a habit of washing just his feet in fucking toilets. Yeah he was thinking different.

He was a huge asshole and even fucked over the real genius, his partner Steve Wozniak, early in their career for a relatively small amount of money. Woz didn't find out until a book came out many years later where Jobs told the story it. And it made Woz cry. Fuck him.

[–] kopasz7 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, all I'm saying is he wasn't pretending. Not that he was admirable. That's all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hah that does seem pretty on brand for him

[–] Burninator05 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The question I have on that is why did we put a liver in someone with (effectively) untreated cancer? Seems like a waste of a liver.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Money.

Not to say that you can just buy a liver if you have enough money, but being rich and famous you get to the top of lists and can afford the private jet to immediately go across continent to get that new liver hardware installed

[–] MutilationWave 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He also used his wealth to establish some kind of residency in a bunch of states so he could be on all their separate donor lists.

And I really do think you can just buy a liver now. Maybe not in the US. Maybe yeah you've just got to have the right connections to big time criminals that owe you a huge favor.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 2 weeks ago

Private donations are a thing. You just can't be seen to pay for the organ. Just like bribery is illegal but paying for their new deck after they coincidentally make the new policy in your favor is fine.

So yes, his money got him a liver.

[–] Subverb 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have pancreatitis. Once my doctor and I were discussing it when he said "At least you don't have pancreatic cancer. If you're able to detect it, it's already too late."