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Three separate places I went to at 8 in the morning. Gas station, dunkin' donuts, and then a convenience store. All of them, trash is full. People wonder why they litter in the USA, there's nowhere to throw away trash when you're out. It's unbelievable People can just go to work and choose not to do their job anymore. That people see this and they don't have any problem with it, no interest at all to keep things neat and tidy and clean. Nope.

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[–] Nikelui 266 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In Japan it's almost impossible to find a trash can on the streets and yet people don't litter. The problem is the culture centered around consumerism and waste.

[–] [email protected] 165 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This. Throwing your trash on the ground because you can't find a trash can amounts to childish entitlement in my eyes.

No trash cans in the forest, is OP saying they just litter all through nature when they go camping?

[–] Blum0108 66 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I fill up a trash bag every time I go hiking

[–] shalafi 9 points 1 week ago

Keep up the good fight! I've got several miles of trail cleaned behind my hood, one more major path to go!

Maybe you do this, if not, take a plastic retail bag, fold it over twice, while pressing the air out, roll it up tight and rubber band it. I always have 2-4 highly compact bags.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

I once dropped a water bottle out of my backpack, and couldn't find it when I retraced my hike, but I did start noticing tons of trash everywhere.

So I started keeping a trash bag in my backpack, and filling a small bag every time I hike.

I may not have found my bottle, but I'll make sure I clean up more than I left every time I'm out.

[–] Carighan 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they just litter all through nature when they go camping

Many americans do just that, yes. :'(

[–] WhyFlip 1 points 1 week ago
[–] Godnroc 12 points 1 week ago

It's somewhat comforting to know that no matter how far out in the wild you go you eventually find signs of humanity.

The fact those signs are pieces of trash that someone either left or blew in on the wind is depressing.

[–] spookex 11 points 1 week ago

Funnily enough that's where I find most of the litter in Japan, like, if you go to any non-main road that goes through a bit of forest, you will see signs threatening fines for littering, with a bunch of trash tossed in that exact area.

I have seen cans, bottles, ACs, TVs, baby car seats, bags, and general household trash. Also found a golf club once that I actually brought home because I thought that it was neat. And this is only along a single stretch of road that is only like 1km long.

So Japan isn't some miracle society that doesn't litter, it's just that they do it someplace that is somewhat out of sight.

[–] dance_ninja 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

With respect to Japan, there's definitely a culture difference, but I don't think it's the consumerism/waste culture. There's so much excess packaging in Japanese food products.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah, East Asia doesn't even try to minimise packaging. Environmentalism just isn't the same there or something.

[–] Nikelui 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I might be wrong, but I assume that the food packaging is a necessity because of the extreme humidity, otherwise it will spoil very fast.

[–] dance_ninja 4 points 1 week ago

Packaging is fine, but it's multiple layers sometimes. I feel it's more for presentation than function.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

In fairness, I remember a time when everyone smoked in Japan and flicked cigarette butts all over the place.

[–] StaticFalconar 5 points 1 week ago

Plenty of consumerism and waste in Japan. For trash, it's socially acceptable to ask a store to use their trash can.