Trans men are men.
this post was submitted on 19 Nov 2024
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What makes us men any more than being beings with arbitrary shapes? I'm using arbitrary in the literal sense of "decided by individuals without regards to external factors".
I'm not a man. I'm me, and I happen to be in this body. All these words are just ways other people are labeling me so they can decide how I'm to be treated. Putting a label on a person is no different than putting a handle on your coffee pot.
In the way "man" is being used here, it's not your body that would make you a man, but your gender identity. For most people, those are intuitively the same thing, but that only makes it more important to be clear about the terms being used here.
Ooohh, the word you guys are looking for is "style".
Listen, if you want to question the terms or concepts being used here then go for it, but please don't barrel into the discussion and obstinately refuse to use the same definitions as everyone else while intentionally not making that clear just so that you can try to own people. We all see through it and it's obnoxious and only serves to erode the quality of discussion.
Well if that's the proper way to do things, I'm gonna need you all to stop obstinately refusing to use the words "man" and "woman" the same way as everyone else while intentionally not making that clear for whatever reason you have. It really IS rude to hijack already existing language to change the conventions everyone else is already using. I would also like people to stop acting like feminism is egalitarianism when the label is clearly gendered.
If you wanna question what it is to be a man or a woman, then go for it, but have some definition ready before asserting what's what in the face of thousands of years of precedent.
So rather useful?
Yes, useful for people trying to control it/them.
Or like you know to communicate.
Communicating to others how to treat who you're labeling.
Dude what are you talking about? I can spend a lot of time describing what I do for work, or I can use a label that describes my occupation. It won't 100% do the job, but will be sufficient most of the time, and if not I can elaborate. How do you even talk to people without using labels, are you happen to be Treebeard or something?
I'm gonna just let what you said yourself sink in for a while.
I see, you just in general anti clear communication, fair enough.
Says the guy who literally sent a sentence with no predicate.
Predicate is just a label used to control folks through grammar, something. Don't bee a sheep.
LMAO
So what is your motivation to take part in conversation without really interacting with folks you talk to? Just lonely?
I'll properly interact with someone when I catch some hint that they're above themselves. All of you who are immersed in life can just continue on without me.
Dang dude, how far are you up your own ass?
How far are YOU up my ass? You got any problems with my attitude? How are you affected? Maybe you should try your own ass out.
You are participating in discussions on public forums so you have to live with people finding your attitude odd.
That's fair.
Hey it's one of those agender people who only wants to abolish gender when trans people are mentioned.
Hi, this is a bit of a tangent but it's topical so I hope you don't mind me asking. Since you use the pronoun "drag", would you also consider your gender to be a third gender, or is it only your pronouns that are nonbinary?
Drag's gender is dragon rider
https://lemmy.nz/post/15737101
That's a pretty good word for it.
I'm just tired of things not making sense.
https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Agender
Ty
Mango, why do you always have to be the one saying absolutely ridiculous shit?