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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.

I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans.

Says the guy who is happy to damn tens of millions of people who didn't vote for this (not to mention all the kids and such) right along with those who did.

[–] TonyOstrich 1 points 6 minutes ago

Hey, I'm in the US, I voted against Trump, I'm likely going to suffer if he is able to accomplish a smidgen of what he has talked about, and I think we got what we deserved. I know a lot of innocent people are going to suffer, but this is a country of very selfish people. Even some of the most liberal people I have met in this country still have a very selfish mindset and reason for the liberal bent. As soon as they attain a position where they have an advantage they basically pull up the ladder. I'm personally tired of it.

People are going to die, ecosystems are going to burn, countries may very well fall. My only hope is that things only get bad enough that the masses learn an important lesson that at least lasts for their generation and that recovery is possible in that time frame.

It's not that I don't care. It's not even that I don't have the fight left in me. I just don't see any kind of path to a better place without substantial harm occurring first. I will not be happy to be right. I want to be wrong.

[–] leadore 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You deserve what’s coming.

You're talking to the people who tried to stop him, so fuck off.

[–] Tyfud 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's talking broadly, to Americans. Which you and I are. And he's right, we deserve this. As a country.

As an individual, neither of us do, since we fought and voted against him. But that's not what OP was saying. He wasn't addressing you specifically, but our nation in the second person.

[–] leadore 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

nope, it's the usual European smug superiority complex I see all over Lemmy, as if they don't have the same problems there (not to mention have had in the past). They can enjoy gloating until the same thing happens in their country, which won't be long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Canadian here and continue to be marvelled by an Americans inability to crawl out of their own ass regardless of if they're Democrat or Republican lol

[–] Tyfud 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You could be correct.

However, Europe's "right" is America's "left".

The political situation might be semantically similar, but the political policymaking is a vastly different situation between the two.

Europe, universally, believes in healthcare as a right, for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

It struck me reading your comment that there is literally nothing that all Americans believe in "universally" and that makes me super sad.

[–] Sweetpeaches69 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I voted for Kamala, and got a handful of others to as well, don't include me with the rest of them. I don't deserve this.

[–] captainlezbian 15 points 1 day ago

Yeah, not only did I vote against this, my demographic hit 94% for Harris.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 17 points 1 day ago

Same. I voted on the first day of early voting, and convinced my nephew and his two best friends to cast their first (and likely last) votes. My niece is 15; I'm sure she'll be glad to hear she "deserves" what's coming.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.

I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.

60% of eligible voters didn't vote. It can be debated if they are complacent or if party leadership didn't Sufficiently motivate them to vote

Of the 40% eligible voters that did vote, 50% voted for trump and 48% voted for Harris.

So depending on how you look at it, 19% of eligible voters actively didn't vote for Trump, or 20% of eligible voters actively voted for Trump.

We could also go on to say that, of those who voted for trump, there was a portion that was not informed which could partially be blamed on the media as well as party leaderships. Some of them are just in a cult mentality and while that doesn't excuse their behavior, they are actively being manipulated. And then there are a bunch of voters who genuinely just want to watch the world burn.

I'm sure we could dissect this many ways, but i can can't see how everyone deserves what's coming. For example , I didn't ask for this. I actively volunteered my time to try to prevent it. Yeah, a good chunk of Americans are idiots. But not all of us deserve what's coming. Fuck that.