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Sure, but you have to acknowledge that of Harris and Trump, one of them would be more unconditional and enthusiastic than the other right?
Already have, plenty of times.
But that doesn't mean I don't get to gripe, and it doesn't mean that griping about it makes me a trumper.
It just looks like centrists just want people to fake happiness about being manipulated into voting for centrists' genocide.
Ok, that's precisely why "unconditional" is reductive. It reduces a spectrum of possibilities to a binary "conditional" vs "unconditional" and produces a "both sides are the same" argument.
Except, it really does though? Complaining about Harris is precisely what the republicans, trumpers, and Netanyahu want you to be doing.
You might not like Trump, but you absolutely are (apparently unwittingly) carrying a lot of water for him.
You don't give a shit who gets elected, as long as no one says anything bad about literal fucking genocide.
When the election is over, what will your new excuse be for why no one can be upset about genocide?
I'm at a loss as to how you could surmise that I don't care about who gets elected? Everything I've been saying is about who gets elected.
You can get as upset as you like about genocide any time, now or later, but maybe in the interim you can help avoid some suffering by not helping Trump get elected.
And you define "getting Trump elected" as "saying anything bad about genocide."
What's your excuse gonna be after the election?
No, I define attacking Biden and Harris over their support for Israel as helping Trump get elected.
You keep asking about my excuse after the election. To be frank, I just don't care very much about the situation in Gaza. It's sad, but it's out of my control, as is every other conflict presently taking place.
If no one mentions it, centrists will assume that genocide is a popular position with the broad approval of the electorate. Well, more than they already do.
That's a patently absurd statement. Who wants genocide for the sake of genocide? You're being dramatic.
Sorry. Forgot that genocide is the new normal. Carry on.
Hmm, needs more pouty.
Needs less gloaty. You're getting the only thing any centrist wants no matter who wins.
Trump is likely to win this election. That's not what I want, and certainly isn't what Gazans want. What are you doing to avoid that outcome?
I've already voted for Harris. I'm not going to shut up and be happy about genocide.
You realise you're discouraging everyone else from voting for Harris though right?
You don't want opposition to genocide and don't care a wet slap about anything else. This is a tiny platform full of entrenched pro-genocide centrists (like yourself). Nothing I say is going to convince anyone to stop supporting Harris, even if that were my intention. Or to stop supporting the genocide all centrists masturbate to.
Don't bother me with your complicity any more. It's disgusting.
Can you help me understand why you think people want genocide?
People may be ambivalent, yes... but you seem to believe people actually support genocide.
Sure. First of all, Republicans want genocide and Netanyahu wants genocide. These are both givens.
The thing I've seen that convinced me is how quickly centrist Democrats give up on every other issue, and how devoted they are to maintain the support for genocide at all costs. This is where they grew a backbone. This is their hill. They're willing to risk democracy itself rather than budge so much as a Planck length on this one issue.
And express the slightest displeasure at how Democrats have deferred leadership to a right-wing genocidal despot an ocean away, and centrists immediately scream that you're a Trumper or a Russian.
You haven't helped me understand why you think people want genocide. Not even a tiny bit.
Don’t bother with them. They do this shit all the time.
It's like an emotional fixation with the word "genocide". I have a morbid fascination with that frame of mind. Like what is the compulsion to believe everyone around you is evil? In any case, I don't think this person is capable of helping me understand that.
You didn't read my comment and never intended to, then.