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Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.

“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”

Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Needs less gloaty. You're getting the only thing any centrist wants no matter who wins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is likely to win this election. That's not what I want, and certainly isn't what Gazans want. What are you doing to avoid that outcome?

[–] Ensign_Crab 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've already voted for Harris. I'm not going to shut up and be happy about genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You realise you're discouraging everyone else from voting for Harris though right?

[–] Ensign_Crab 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You don't want opposition to genocide and don't care a wet slap about anything else. This is a tiny platform full of entrenched pro-genocide centrists (like yourself). Nothing I say is going to convince anyone to stop supporting Harris, even if that were my intention. Or to stop supporting the genocide all centrists masturbate to.

Don't bother me with your complicity any more. It's disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you help me understand why you think people want genocide?

People may be ambivalent, yes... but you seem to believe people actually support genocide.

[–] Ensign_Crab -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Can you help me understand why you think people want genocide?

Sure. First of all, Republicans want genocide and Netanyahu wants genocide. These are both givens.

The thing I've seen that convinced me is how quickly centrist Democrats give up on every other issue, and how devoted they are to maintain the support for genocide at all costs. This is where they grew a backbone. This is their hill. They're willing to risk democracy itself rather than budge so much as a Planck length on this one issue.

And express the slightest displeasure at how Democrats have deferred leadership to a right-wing genocidal despot an ocean away, and centrists immediately scream that you're a Trumper or a Russian.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

You haven't helped me understand why you think people want genocide. Not even a tiny bit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t bother with them. They do this shit all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It's like an emotional fixation with the word "genocide". I have a morbid fascination with that frame of mind. Like what is the compulsion to believe everyone around you is evil? In any case, I don't think this person is capable of helping me understand that.

[–] Ensign_Crab -1 points 21 hours ago

You didn't read my comment and never intended to, then.