this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2024
97 points (99.0% liked)

Space

8797 readers
127 users here now

Share & discuss informative content on: Astrophysics, Cosmology, Space Exploration, Planetary Science and Astrobiology.


Rules

  1. Be respectful and inclusive.
  2. No harassment, hate speech, or trolling.
  3. Engage in constructive discussions.
  4. Share relevant content.
  5. Follow guidelines and moderators' instructions.
  6. Use appropriate language and tone.
  7. Report violations.
  8. Foster a continuous learning environment.

Picture of the Day

The Busy Center of the Lagoon Nebula


Related Communities

πŸ”­ Science

πŸš€ Engineering

🌌 Art and Photography


Other Cool Links

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How could they not think of this during design? Rocket science, my ass.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Private companies competing for things ends up with stuff like this. Unless NASA or someone designs a spec and contractually enforces everyone to implement it, problems like this can crop up in all kinds of places.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In most fields, even private companies understand the need for industry standards.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And in new fields of privatization, someone has to win out on the standard. It should have been NASA demanding an interoperable spec but someone will win out here eventually and it will be standard in the future.

[–] robolemmy 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

When you make a new standard to consolidate related-but-drifting standards, all you’ve done is make n+1 standards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

XLCD

Ah yes, XLCD, created by Rbndall Mvnroe.

[–] SpaceNoodle 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, like how Apple works with other phone and tablet manufacturers to use a unified charging and data port.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can’t tell if this is sarcastic because Apple contributed over 20% of the engineers credited with developing USB-C.

All told, Apple contributed 18 of 79 named engineers listed on the connector certification project or under 23%. 9to5

[–] SpaceNoodle 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's sarcasm, because it took EU legislation to force them to actually fucking use it in their phones a decade later.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They don't contribute engineers out of the kindness of their hearts. They do it for entirely selfish reasons β€” to have a large influence in industry standards, and the competitive advantages that enables.

Do you also believe Google created Chrome for "freedom", instead of to gain a competitive advantage in web and ad tech standards?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Only when it's their standard most of the time, which is the reason why we have so many standards for so many things that do basically the same thing

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And that's why we have the EU telling apple and their fanboys to eat shit and use USB-C :) without these legislators we get the chaos you mention

For consumer products I don't agree with enforcing it through the beginning though as it might hinder innovation. But once you have a few working cases you enforce the better one

[–] 9point6 -4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Elon and his companies seem to have a propensity for preferring proprietary bullshit over standards

[–] halcyoncmdr 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There is no general spacesuit "standard". Suits up to this point have all been designed for a specific purpose and often even a specific vehicle. Newer vehicles have used newer suit designs to go with them. The upcoming Orion system for Artemis uses an entirely new and different suit as well. Not to mention the Russian and Chinese suits are different as well to work with their vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So what we need to do is keep a bunch of umbilical adaptor hoses in the glovebox of every spacecraft.

"Do we have a Boeing to SpaceX adaptor?"

"No but we can do Boeing to ESA to Soyuz to Shuttle to SpaceX. It's 8 feet long but it will work."

"Good enough then."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

The internet would absolutely lose it if SpaceX started selling dongles.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's because you are illiterate in the matter and want to criticize spacex for the sake of it.Unfortunately there is no current "standard" for space suits.

[–] kokesh 5 points 3 months ago

I don't think there is a standard. NASA should have mandated something in this department.