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I notice a large number of ragebait-y political communities being spun up by new users with thousands of posts & ai profile header photos. I notice comment sections are more acrimonious, and foreign disinfo talking points are circulating a lot more prolifically than before the US election started ramping up.

Anyone else notice this? Any idea on how to combat it on this platform? Are there any communities built around creating block lists of obvious troll/ai/disinfo accounts & communities?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

Not really, but I am from Europe so I don't subscribe to communities connected to US news or politics. Can you give some examples?

[–] voluble 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Communities like https://lemmy.world/c/independentmormonism, https://lemmy.world/c/independentcatholicism, https://lemmy.world/c/thirdpartynews, all created today, and modded by a 9 day old user account with 640 comments and 334 posts.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

Lemmy is another form of social media, and bullshit that happens on social media will come here as more people come here. Your life will be much better if you make full use of blocklists and filtering.

[–] Lemminary 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Don't know if you know, but just a heads up for anyone unfamiliar, the proper formatting for linking communities is:

[email protected]

This helps users from other instances browse those communities without leaving their instance and prevents mobile apps from opening the browser. It also supports autofill when typing after the exclamation mark so you can't go wrong.

[–] breakingcups 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Which, let's face it, is dumb. Other clients should be able to recognize linked Lemmy instances and handle the click transparently.

Instead, now we have links that can't be shared outside of Lemmy and links that should only be shared outside of Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How do you expect for that auto-detection to work? Just a regex on example.com/c/community? What happens when some other instance software decides to use a different URL format? Or do you just assume Lemmy is the only thing out here?

[–] breakingcups 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Every Lemmy instance can see which other fediverse instances they're connected to, I'd be satisfied if it scoped to those instance domains. It's going to be very rare to have a link to a Lemmy/kbin/whatever instance that is not already being followed by one local user, and when it does happen, the first time any local user follows it, it's fixed again. That covers the 99% of cases better than having to educate every user every time in every thread they innocently post a normal url instead of knowing how to even copy this special url from.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

True, that will at least let you figure out what is a fediverse link and what isn't. Most implementations I know either use the same URL for both the AP representation of a post and it's HTML one (differentiated by the Accept header), or have a redirect from the HTML view to the AP representation when an AP type is requested (or, very rarely, the via Link header/ html tag), which means you can reuse code used for the "search URL to load community" feature in order to make this possible.

Given the list of fedi instances your instance is aware of is already present in the API, clients already have the tools to do this, I believe.

[–] Lemminary 1 points 4 months ago

I think it's fine if you provide a common interface across Lemmy with autocomplete. If you're on a desktop, you can always copy the URL but if you're on mobile you use the Share button anyway.

[–] voluble 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks! I was sure there was a nomenclature, I just forgot what it was. Cheers for the reminder.

[–] Today 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How do you do that? When i go to the community info page and click share, i get the http ..

[–] Lemminary 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Just type "!" followed by the name of the sub. Make sure it's the registered name and not the display name. You can find that on the sidebar as below.

[–] Today 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

On jerboa, when i click share (which is the only place i can copy the community name) i get https://lemmy.world/c/asklemmy

So, then i would have to delete, rearrange, and add ! and @

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