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So many kids with assigned school Chromebooks are going to get fucked over by this. You can apparently install Firefox on a Chromebook via the Google Play Store, but that was disabled on my daughter's Chromebook. I don't want her exposed to constant advertising while she's doing her schoolwork. It's bad enough that she's exposed to it the rest of the time just being in America.
I think this is something most people rarely talk about but it strikes home to many of us. As a parent, I have a responsibility to defend my children against this persistent cognitive manipulation and experimentation. Just as I would not want a random stranger at the corner have exclusive attention of my kid and sell them insurance or grammarly or mesothelioma, I would also never want them to have that unfiltered access to my kids online. One can then say AdBlocks are a parental obligation.
there has to be collective voices and collective action taken. do parents unions exist?
Usually, they are used to burn books :/
*Limit access to pornography in grade school libraries. Translated your groomer speak to English for you.
What a weird thing to say
You think little kids need to view explicit material? I hope no one trusts you around children. Parents have a right and a responsibility to know and approve of the curriculum taught to their children by state schools financed by their taxes. If they do not approve they should have the right to send their children and their money elsewhere. This will be the law.
And, pray tell, what library or school has pornography in it that is easily accessible to minors?
Furthermore, having lived my entire life around educators and now working for an educational institution: parents are fucking stupid lol
The sheer numbers of videos of parents bitching and crying at school meetings or libraries about "X book is pornographic" or "this book has witchcraft and should be burned" is absurd. Those mouth breathers don't even know how to critically examine a fucking facebook post for bullshit, let alone comprehend the difficulty in teaching children.
Don't like your kid learning about how Trans people exist? Go fuck yourself and homeschool your kid so they can be permanently stunted in terms of preparation for the real world. Let the vast majority of regular people make sure their kids grow up socially aware and at least passingly prepared for the future.
Also, "this will be the law?" Have you seen the flailing Republican party? Guess what fucker - the average American thinks project 2025 is batshit and the republican party got hijacked by a manchild and ruined their stupid plans. It's only downhill from here now that they went mask off - most people think they're nuts.
Nah. I'm gonna keep advocating for sanity in public schools and for parents to have oversight of their children's education.
Lol ok whatever you say. Enjoy the consequences of letting the uneducated run things
It’s normal for system admins to not let their users install non-whitelist software
You should PTA to switch from Chrome to Firefox
I think it's very unlikely that they would pay for the IT department to install Firefox on every Chromebook. You're talking 14,000 students in this county and only the kindergartners don't get Chromebooks.
You might be surprised! This type of change is usually automated and centralized, so an administrator shouldn't ever have to even touch any of those Chromebooks. Might be worth having a chat with your school administrators.
My own daughter is in online school now (it's still a public school, it's just not in a physical location) so she can use her own computer... but I have to do the user agent switcher thing because the school's own website testing software isn't Firefox-compatible. And the school is run by evil Pierson who basically has a monopoly on American public schools, so I'm guessing that's true for all of those Chromebooks out there too.
Still, I might suggest it to them anyway just for the benefit of the other kids.
Yeah, they sign major contracts that have a lot of stipulations so they get the best deals since theyre govt funded. This backfires, ofc, by locking them into bad products.
Im not saying dont try, definitely do.
Should be able to do either remotely or by including it in the image
I imagine personal work is saved to a server not locally
But it doesn’t hurt to try
That's really wild to me. They give each grade school student a chromebook? That is honestly terrifying.
Why is it terrifying? A lot of kids don't have computers of their own and this gives them access to the internet. It's also, in my opinion, a far better way to give kids tests than filling in bubbles on a sheet of paper.
I mean I wish there were other good, cheap options, but there aren't.
I really hate to "back in my day" this but we had computer labs for that when I was younger. And that didn't require giving a monopoly company my name or any other information about me. And I wasn't being ad-tracked all day long going to websites.
Computer labs aren't going to help the kids going home at night to study and I don't really think shuffling kids into a computer lab every time there's a test in any class makes much sense.
I mean, both can be true if we're living in a cloud-based world.
Schools can provide workstations and households can either opt in to using their own computer at home or be assigned a laptop or laptop credit. Choice is the important part here, and limiting kids choices at the benefit of major oligarchy organizations sucks big floppy donkey dick.
Schools are not about choice, they're about an even playing field. You cannot give students the kind of education you can give them on a per-classroom basis if they don't all have access to the same technology. What if a parent chooses to not give the kid a laptop even though the kid doesn't have a computer at home?
You don't advocate for that for the same reason that you don't advocate for parents to choose whether or not their kids get taught about evolution.
Why would that happen? What weird strawman scenario is this?
Who knows? Maybe because they don't allow that demonic technology in their house. People are crazy. It doesn't matter why. Assuming parents, given the choice, will make the correct choice for their child has been shown to be wrong again and again.
But let's say all the kids with notebooks at home don't get them and all the kids without notebooks at home get them. Ok. Now, the software we're using for art class this year runs in Windows. Your kid has a Macbook.
Virtual environments exist and are the backbone of modern IT. Surely we can teach kids how to boot Docker?
Also your demonic line doesnt add up, the ye can still say the Chromebooks are demonic and make the kid leave it outside the house or something.
Except they have to use the Chromebook to do schoolwork. I’m not sure why you are acting like this is some weird rarity when it’s really standard.
And no, expecting a six-year-old to understand much more than clicking on the default home page is not something we can “surely teach.” Because they’re six.
What about 7 year olds?
Is it just 6 year olds we need to handhold docker image launching?
I understand Chromebooks are standard and I desire that to change, hence this entire thread you've been commenting on.
I seem to interact with you a lot, and sometimes it feels like you get lost in all the posts and comments you make and lose focus of the entire conversation at hand.
Expecting all, or even most, children in an elementary school to understand that is silly.
All I can think is you've never raised any children if you think most six or seven-year-olds could understand that.
School, again, is supposed to be about fairness, not catering to the smartest kids.
How about a DNS-based ad-blocking service? NextDNS is pretty good and not expensive. You should check if you can set custom DNS servers on that Chromebook, though.
I have Yunohost installed on my local network and they have DNS adblocking apps that you can install.
You can also very easily install apps like Owncloud to have your own version of Google Drive.
That probably will not be suitable because the Chromebook could leave the home network.
Don’t tell me that, there’s a Dad yearnin’ to help his spawn?!?!
DNS over https bypasses much of that, right? till you find and block those DNS servers